Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Pickman's model]

Seriously friedaweed, you need to stop making loads of posts about your crush on Jo Swinson, it's not a good look.

Let's hope he's not been sending her emails and letters

 

[brogdale]

You should be sorry. The North is the North, regardless of where you happen to be.

True dat; especially so atm.

 

[cupid_stunt]

What's Clapham doing in the south there? Someone's sold you a dodgy map.

Google maps.

But, there's part of that village, that's actually called Clapham Common.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

Luton isn't in the North. If it was, maybe it wouldn't be such a shit hole.

Luton is a northern working class town which happens to be in southern England.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Luton is a northern working class town which happens to be in southern England.

It really isn't

 

[DotCommunist]

Still got no idea about this brexit shit though. I only voted leave because DotCommunist told me it would be a bit of a spanner in the clanger and would prove what a bumbling bunch of self serving cunts our politicians are so on that front he was bang on as usual

Jo Swinson is ....a lovely lovely woman.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Luton is a northern working class town which happens to be in southern England.

It feels more like the midlands to me (it feels more midlands than bedford does, which is further north, but then some places don't quite fit where they are. slough is similar...)

although administratively, bedfordshire is in the east of england region, which strikes me as bollocks.

 

[William of Walworth]

To continue the complete irrelevance, an old mate's a life-long Watford fan, and he claims that years ago, a favourite anti-Luton chant in bubble-match derbies , and in boring bits of other matches, was 'Bedscum' while fingerpointing at 'Hatters' fans from the Watford stand

I'm sure Brixton Hatter knows this. Oxford v Swindon matches contain similar levels of immaturity

 

[kabbes]

Seriously friedaweed, you need to stop making loads of posts about your crush on Jo Swinson, it's not a good look.

Posting on message boards about how attractive you find a female politician — in the context of modern culture and the historic subjugation and objectification of women — is, each and every time, a little poison reminder to women that their worth is bound up in their ability to appeal to men. So yes, I agree. It’s not a good look. Every time he does it, I lose a bit more respect.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

It feels more like the midlands to me (it feels more midlands than bedford does, which is further north, but then some places don't quite fit where they are. slough is similar...)

although administratively, bedfordshire is in the east of england region, which strikes me as bollocks.

Your feelings are wrong. Luton is London overspill. It’s not the Midlands geographically, industrially, historically or in any other way.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Slightly more positive comments from Juncker.

A Brexit deal is possible, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker said on Thursday, adding that if the Irish border backstop which the British government wants removed could be replaced with alternatives, it would not be needed.

Asked about reports that Northern Ireland could follow EU rules on food and agriculture with other checks being done away from the border, the journalist who interviewed Juncker quoted him as saying: “It is the basis of a deal... it is the starting point and the arrival point.”

EU's Juncker says on Brexit: I think we can have a deal - Reuters

It comes from an exclusive Sky News interview, the full version to be aired during Sophy Ridge on Sunday, from 8.30 am.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Slightly more positive comments from Juncker.



EU's Juncker says on Brexit: I think we can have a deal - Reuters

It comes from an exclusive Sky News interview, the full version to be aired during Sophy Ridge on Sunday, from 8.30 am.

That’s just Junker reiterating that it is up to Boris to come up with a workable alternative to the backstop, which he can’t, or else no deal is down to him.

 

[Mr Moose]

Luton is a northern working class town which happens to be in southern England.

Grim, but not North.

In fact, plenty of it isn’t even especially grim.

 

[chilango]

Posting on message boards about how attractive you find a female politician — in the context of modern culture and the historic subjugation and objectification of women — is, each and every time, a little poison reminder to women that their worth is bound up in their ability to appeal to men. So yes, I agree. It’s not a good look. Every time he does it, I lose a bit more respect.

I've probably been spending a bit too much time poring over semiotic analysis of images recently, but I'm getting pretty suspicious of the photos the media are using for Swinson.

 

[Sue]

I've probably been spending a bit too much time poring over semiotic analysis of images recently, but I'm getting pretty suspicious of the photos the media are using for Swinson.

How do you mean, chilango?

 

[chilango]

How do you mean, chilango?

To put it crudely they seem to constantly focus on her breasts.

The angles, the shadows, the composition etc all seem to direct the gaze in that direction.

I may be reading too much into it, but I can't shake off this nagging suspicion.

 

[Mr Moose]

To put it crudely they seem to constantly focus on her breasts.

The angles, the shadows, the composition etc all seem to direct the gaze in that direction.

I may be reading too much into it, but I can't shake off this nagging suspicion.

Lol. The woman was there. The media reported. Are you suggesting some sort of digital enhancement?

Not to say that physical appearance isn’t important. Both men and women invest heavily in the ‘right’ size of big bust. It’s an electoral commonplace that bald blokes can’t get elected or are unlikely to. Tall men with hair do better in the boardroom etc.

Jo Swinson will certainly have a stylist and that stylist will be looking to do things that men and women alike will admire.

 

[belboid]

To put it crudely they seem to constantly focus on her breasts.

The angles, the shadows, the composition etc all seem to direct the gaze in that direction.

I may be reading too much into it, but I can't shake off this nagging suspicion.

A quick google image search for Swinson and Abbott does show a lot more mid-shots of Swinson, whereas Abbott's are far more tightly head and shoulders.

 

[Sue]

Jo Swinson will certainly have a stylist and that stylist will be looking to do things that men and women alike will admire.

Like what exactly?

 

[chilango]

Lol. The woman was there. The media reported. Are you suggesting some sort of digital enhancement?
.

Photographs aren't neutral, objective things.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Haven't noticed it with swinson but when leadsom was running against may loads of the photos got leadsom's legs in.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Posting on message boards about how attractive you find a female politician — in the context of modern culture and the historic subjugation and objectification of women — is, each and every time, a little poison reminder to women that their worth is bound up in their ability to appeal to men. So yes, I agree. It’s not a good look. Every time he does it, I lose a bit more respect.

No sorry- I would be first in the queue these days to deliver a kick in the goolies if I thought a guy was being sexist/inappropriate in that way but he’s just saying he has a crush on her. It’s fine, we all have them. Don’t be so patronising - to us women like. “ a little poison reminder” honestly

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Scrap that

 

[gentlegreen]

This is a key reason I can't get my head around dating apps that demand that people make a snap judgement based on appearance.
I had an overtly left wing, happily partnered and normally level-headed colleague who couldn't shake off a minor fixation with Marine Le Pen
Mind you, he was a Francophile, and a husky tobacco voice works magic with some people.

 

[philosophical]

Dear Editor,
To answer your question if brexit means 'leave' then it won't happen in my view. If brexit means feck everything to the chite then it has happened, is happening, and will continue to happen in my view.

 

[friedaweed]

Posting on message boards about how attractive you find a female politician — in the context of modern culture and the historic subjugation and objectification of women — is, each and every time, a little poison reminder to women that their worth is bound up in their ability to appeal to men. So yes, I agree. It’s not a good look. Every time he does it, I lose a bit more respect.

You're right and I apologise. I'll stop fucking about now if it's impacting on our long friendship on these boards

 

[kabbes]

No sorry- I would be first in the queue these days to deliver a kick in the goolies if I thought a guy was being sexist/inappropriate in that way but he’s just saying he has a crush on her. It’s fine, we all have them. Don’t be so patronising - to us women like. “ a little poison reminder” honestly

He’s not “just said it”, though. He’s saying it again and again and it’s all he says about her.

 

[kabbes]

You're right and I apologise. I'll stop fucking about now if it's impacting on our long friendship on these boards

thank you

 

[friedaweed]

thank you

You're welcome

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I dread to think of what the million viewers of this thread will make of the bizarre derail by Chilango.

ETA: And the equally bizarre 'Luton turn'