IRA worship

[fishfingerer]

not enough evidence to convict in court, just for example.

Okay some loyalists know that the IRA meet in a certain pub and send in a bomb that kills no IRA men and a dozen punters, is that alright?

I mean the loyalist could have had friends or family killed by the IRA, to them they are death squads, do you expect him to reach out to them?

The loyalists were not overly interested in killing IRA members as a look at the list of their victims for the year of the Shankill bombing would verify. There was a psychotic element to their activity which for the most part was absent from IRA actions. I think Eamonn McCann said that if there was no republican violence, loyalist violence would cease. He was wrong there.

 

[fishfingerer]

Because you can't do anything but blow people up and then support or attack that action. That's all you can do.

Yes, well anyway the shankill bomb was a failure in every regard.

 

[revol68]

incorrect loyalists would have loved to have got some RA volunteers, unfortunately they lacked 2 brain cells to rub together, planned their ops in the pub whilst pished and consequently they'd shoot a random taig.

Eamon McCann might have pushed the stick too far but loyalist violence is primarily turnt in on itself since the IRA ceasfires.

And i would agree that psycho pathic behaviour was on the whole more prevalent within loyalist actions, but i would see this as more to do with command structures, eg IRA volunteers who were headcases were under tighter controls, loyalist groups where a fucking shambles, especially since most of their "natural leadership" fucked off out of the country or joined the army, what was left to "defend ulster" was the creme de le merde. Lets not forget ole Crib Williams the INLA guy who shot Billy Wright (with british security force collusion) was origionally in for shooting a doorman in the face for not letting him into a snooker hall.

 

[absinthe]

Hey Paisley Jr (wevol68), could you tell me how many shopping centres the INLA blew up please. Then sing us one of your presbo songs.

 

[revol68]

did i say the INLA blew up fucking shopping centres, they preferred to shoot up churches and each other.

 

[foggypane]

hey, guys, guys, a little love needed here. Hey? let's all close our eyes and think about a cuddle with someone who loves us and smells of lavender....

Ok now?


Good...

This thread isn't about 'INLA/IRA/IPLO/UDA/UVF/UDR/UFF/PIL/RAC/Inland Revenue/BBC' inter-sectarian stuff. It's about why the IRA attract sexual emmissions and moistness from the Left of UK politics.

My own take on it is that the IRA have been remorselessly romanticized since 1969 as some sort of hero-gang. Yes, there are and were brave, brave people who did fantastically courageous things against huge odds. But, they were overshadowed and ultimately betrayed by cowardly psycho scum who kill kids/torture prisoners/intimidate communities etc.

This thread is an attempt to look at the gap between the ideal of a united Ireland and the methods employed to attain same.

Which cock sucking UFF head case did what to which poor bastard Whiterock volunteer's brother's mate's girlfriend's uncle in 1987 ain't relevant. Different thread.

 

[foggypane]

as opposed to off duty cops and people who happen to be in a fucking city centre.

They are the biggest bunch of hypocrtical cunts, they whinge about human rights when their volunteers get shot waiting to ambush a van full of protestant workers yet they killed plenty of off duty security forces. If your going to have your fucking war atleast be fucking consistent and don't go whining like lil biatchs when you get shot driving a fucking digger loaded with a bomb at a fucking village police station.

.... I think I know someone who was on that op....

 

[STFC]

The loyalists were not overly interested in killing IRA members as a look at the list of their victims for the year of the Shankill bombing would verify. There was a psychotic element to their activity which for the most part was absent from IRA actions. I think Eamonn McCann said that if there was no republican violence, loyalist violence would cease. He was wrong there.

I'm in no way defending the murder of innocents here, but couldn't it be said that the logic behind Loyalists targeting innocent Catholics was to apply pressure on the Republican organisations who claimed to be the defenders of their community? I think the UFF et al would have liked nothing more than to take out the IRA hierarchy, but because of poor intelligence, ineptitude or whatever they knew this wasn't possible. I'm sure in many cases it was a case of "any taig will do", but it could have been a tactical decision to take out members of the community who were seen as harbouring the people they were really after.

Now the IRA appear to have abandoned the armed struggle, it remains to be seen whether the various Loyalist organisations will follow suit.

 

[durruti02]

I don’t know why you have made this reference – please explain. I don’t see you can make a direct comparison like this.

BECAUSE YOU HAD IN THE MINERS STRIKE COMMUNITY IN STRUGGLE..HOW IS IT THAT DIFFERRENT??


I would state that the Republican w/c communities are more confident and so consequently are more empowered. The Republican Movement isn’t demoralised – quite the opposite, it is dynamic and forwardthinking. As for Loyalist working class communities – well, they seem in an awful state – insecure and paranoid, the peace dividend hasn’t brought them much in return. But then neither did the war dividend – I suspect that being involved and supporting Loyalist paramilitaries gave some return of importance and playing an important part, even if it was politically illusionary - how much have they gained for their loyalty??!

THE CATHLOLIC W/C ARE STILL ABOUT THE POOREST IN TH E Uk AS FAR AS I CAN SEE ... AND WOULD YOU HAVE LED DOWN THE ROUTE OF 30 YEARS OF BLOODSHED AND INCREASED SEGREGATION IF YOU HAD KNOWN IT WOULD LEAD TO THAT?? .. AS I SAID THE CRITIQUE OF ARMED STRUGGLE AND NATIONALISM QUITE CLEARLY SHOWS THAT INCREASED SEGREGATION AND BLOODSHED IS THE CONSEQUENCE OF NATIONALISM AND ARMED STRUGGLE



Okay, you’ve got me there – I haven’t read it, so can’t comment on its contents. But anyway, you point being?

DC!! eAMONN MACANNS BOOK IS the MOST IMPORTANT BOOK ON THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT AND IT'S DESTRUCTION AND THE RISE OF NATIONALISM AND THE ARMED STRUGGLE!! ESSENTIAL READING .. IN BOTH EDITIONS .. AND MY POINT BEING HE SHOWS ( YES HE IS BIASED BUT HE WAS A KEY PERSON IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT) THAT NATIONALISM AND THE ARMED STRUGGLE WAS FORCED ON THE CATHOLICS BY THE MIDDLE CLASS ..



You say that it was the IRA that stopped the ‘w/c movement in NI’. I presume you mean Loyalists and Republicans in a united movement. For starters, there is little history of this happening – apart from radical Presbyterianism and for a brief time with the Revolutionary Workers Groups in the 30s. So it’s not as if their was any continuity in solidarity that was smashed by the arrival of the Provisionals. Besides anyway, everybody on the left – from the SDLP to the anarchists – declared that the root of the problem was partition – not message that has or never will ever go down well in the Skankill Road.

WHY IS THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM PARTITION?? IT IS A PROBLEM BUT IF WE CAN NOT DEAL WITH BORDERS WITHOUT BECOMING NATIONALISTS WE ARE FKED .. THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM IS CAPITALISM AND THE CLASS SYSTEM .. ONLY BY ATTACKING THAT CAN YOU DESTROY BORDERS

Of course, politically you are absolutely right – there does need to be a political working class movement in the Six Counties regardless of the religious make up or national allegiance (internationalism) or of its participants. But there is also reality – and a rather ugly one at that. The Sinn Fein Workers Party were an avowdley class-based Marxist party that never achieved a support of note in Northern Irish Republican communities, let alone in Loyalist ones.

TOO TRUE .. PARTLY THEY WERE DAFT STALINISTS .. ALSO THEY TRYING TO OUTDO THE PIRA AND SHOT A POPULAR KID FROM THE CREGGAN .. RANGER BEST .. FOR BEING IN THE BRITISH ARMY .. DESTROYED THEM IN DERRY .. BUT ONCE THE NATIONALIST AGENDA IS SET PEOPLE CAN DO LITTLE TO GET OUT OF IT ..

In many ways of course, your point is just political fantasising – what if? Even if this hyperthetical ‘what if’ doesn’t have much evidence to suggest that this route was ever plausible.

IT MAY WELL BE FANTASISING .. BUT ALL THOUGHT IS THAT .. THE POINT HERE IS THAT THOUSENDS DIED NEEDLESSLY DUE TO THE W/C OF THE NORTH BEING FORCED BUT USA AND EIRE MIDDLE CLASSES THAT THE OLD WAYS WERE THE BEST .. THEY WEREN'T .. WHAT A WASTE ..

 

[absinthe]

.... I think I know someone who was on that op....

oh fuck...."i've got a mate in the SAS".....here we go

 

[krtek a houby]

If in doubt post something about nearly killing Thatcher, fanfuckingtastic.
Of course they never managed it and all they did do was to further strengthen the state. But hey if it gives you a hard on thinking about then why not.

"Look I know you lost your mother and father in an IRA atrocity, but don't worry they nearly got Thatcher"

Dickhead!

When you occupy and repress a people and a country; you will get some who fight back. Their tactics may be despicable, sure. But don't be suprised if they use despicable tactics to fight back. Because the occupation is despicable in the first place.

And I don't support despicable tactics from either side, btw. Just saying it as it is.

 

[fanta]

When you occupy and repress a people and a country; you will get some who fight back. Their tactics may be despicable, sure. But don't be suprised if they use despicable tactics to fight back. Because the occupation is despicable in the first place.

And I don't support despicable tactics from either side, btw. Just saying it as it is.

Nah, you're talking utter pigs' swill. The reason why everybody hates everybody is because Northern Ireland has even worse weather than us. That is why they're killing each other.

 

[cemertyone]

well your correct in one sense as im now an atheist but for the benefit of the wee bastards in the UYM and at my school I was a fenian wee bastard.

By any chance do you know the "Graham" brothers from Larne???? two more of your fellow catholics living in that "wee" town...One of the brothers used to walk around Larne with a Celtic motor bike helmet on ( he was a bit mad).....

 

[revol68]

Graham brothers? what age are they and where abouts did they live in Larne.

 

[cemertyone]

or
Just out of interest, say the Brits had intelligence that senior IRA members where meeting in a west belfast pub and decided to bomb it at it's peak hours of business, what would you make of it?

What like when the Britsh Security services bombed the shit out of Dublin causing mass death and causalities) is that the kind of thing you mean....Well i would describe that as " state terrorism" wouldn`t you????

 

[revol68]

well aye there is good reason to be ponder the involvement of british security operatives in those bombings, and of course any right minded person would be completely opposed to such actions, so I would think it logical to be opposed to the shankill bombings as well.

 

[Divisive Cotton]

I don’t know why you have made this reference – please explain. I don’t see you can make a direct comparison like this.

BECAUSE YOU HAD IN THE MINERS STRIKE COMMUNITY IN STRUGGLE..HOW IS IT THAT DIFFERRENT?? .

You can't place the two side-by-side like this... so basically every and any working class struggle and all strategy rising from therein should be fited into one template. Now I know you don't believe this, so it's not a good point to make.

I would state that the Republican w/c communities are more confident and so consequently are more empowered. The Republican Movement isn’t demoralised – quite the opposite, it is dynamic and forwardthinking. As for Loyalist working class communities – well, they seem in an awful state – insecure and paranoid, the peace dividend hasn’t brought them much in return. But then neither did the war dividend – I suspect that being involved and supporting Loyalist paramilitaries gave some return of importance and playing an important part, even if it was politically illusionary - how much have they gained for their loyalty??!

THE CATHLOLIC W/C ARE STILL ABOUT THE POOREST IN TH E Uk AS FAR AS I CAN SEE ... AND WOULD YOU HAVE LED DOWN THE ROUTE OF 30 YEARS OF BLOODSHED AND INCREASED SEGREGATION IF YOU HAD KNOWN IT WOULD LEAD TO THAT?? .. AS I SAID THE CRITIQUE OF ARMED STRUGGLE AND NATIONALISM QUITE CLEARLY SHOWS THAT INCREASED SEGREGATION AND BLOODSHED IS THE CONSEQUENCE OF NATIONALISM AND ARMED STRUGGLE

You say ‘the Catholic w/c are still about the porrest in the UK as far as I can see’ There’s already been other posts talking about this, so I’m not going repeat what has come before. But tell me, are the IRA also responsible for the tides turning as well – ‘It would be okay in Northern Ireland if it wasn’t for those pesky Paddies on the Falls Road’. Don’t you think that Unionism has played just a little, little dinky part in it all?
Increased segregation you say? Well the IRA are no longer armed or active – lets see if there is less segregation now in the coming years. What do you think is gonna happen? Ask yourself, where does segregaton in Northern Ireland come from? Who instigated it? In whose interests was it institutionalised in the Six Counties?

But I’ll say it again – Republican communities are not demoralised, they do not feel defeated. There is a pride in struggle, in collective action. One of the criticism of the IRA from the left is that is methods are one of elitism, but the political struggle encompased everybody in those communities – so many people have played so many active roles over the years and which were not directly about the armed campaign.

You say that it was the IRA that stopped the ‘w/c movement in NI’. I presume you mean Loyalists and Republicans in a united movement. For starters, there is little history of this happening – apart from radical Presbyterianism and for a brief time with the Revolutionary Workers Groups in the 30s. So it’s not as if their was any continuity in solidarity that was smashed by the arrival of the Provisionals. Besides anyway, everybody on the left – from the SDLP to the anarchists – declared that the root of the problem was partition – not message that has or never will ever go down well in the Skankill Road.

WHY IS THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM PARTITION?? IT IS A PROBLEM BUT IF WE CAN NOT DEAL WITH BORDERS WITHOUT BECOMING NATIONALISTS WE ARE FKED .. THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM IS CAPITALISM AND THE CLASS SYSTEM .. ONLY BY ATTACKING THAT CAN YOU DESTROY BORDERS.

I was making a comment about the general consencus on the left .
Okay, so according to you, it’s a case of not mentioning the partition – well that’s like saying, IGNORE THE PINK ELEPHANT SITTING IN THE FRONT ROOM! It’s an artificial statelet, a relic of the British Empire.

Tell me, what has been the Loyalist contribution to socialism/anarchism in Ireland? Where was the basis of unity to have come from?

Of course, politically you are absolutely right – there does need to be a political working class movement in the Six Counties regardless of the religious make up or national allegiance (internationalism) or of its participants. But there is also reality – and a rather ugly one at that. The Sinn Fein Workers Party were an avowdley class-based Marxist party that never achieved a support of note in Northern Irish Republican communities, let alone in Loyalist ones.

TOO TRUE .. PARTLY THEY WERE DAFT STALINISTS .. ALSO THEY TRYING TO OUTDO THE PIRA AND SHOT A POPULAR KID FROM THE CREGGAN .. RANGER BEST .. FOR BEING IN THE BRITISH ARMY .. DESTROYED THEM IN DERRY .. BUT ONCE THE NATIONALIST AGENDA IS SET PEOPLE CAN DO LITTLE TO GET OUT OF IT ..

In many ways of course, your point is just political fantasising – what if? Even if this hyperthetical ‘what if’ doesn’t have much evidence to suggest that this route was ever plausible.

IT MAY WELL BE FANTASISING .. BUT ALL THOUGHT IS THAT .. THE POINT HERE IS THAT THOUSENDS DIED NEEDLESSLY DUE TO THE W/C OF THE NORTH BEING FORCED BUT USA AND EIRE MIDDLE CLASSES THAT THE OLD WAYS WERE THE BEST .. THEY WEREN'T .. WHAT A WASTE ..

Who forced who into what – again, your entire description of the troubles in Norther Ireland fails to mention ONCE the role of Unionism/Loyalism.

 

[foggypane]

oh fuck...."i've got a mate in the SAS".....here we go

....I didn't say which side the person was on...

 

[durruti02]

You can't place the two side-by-side like this... so basically every and any working class struggle and all strategy rising from therein should be fited into one template. Now I know you don't believe this, so it's not a good point to make.

I AM MAKING THE POINT THAT THE ARMED STRUGGLE WAS NOT INEVITABLE IN NI. ..



You say ‘the Catholic w/c are still about the porrest in the UK as far as I can see’ There’s already been other posts talking about this, so I’m not going repeat what has come before. But tell me, are the IRA also responsible for the tides turning as well – ‘It would be okay in Northern Ireland if it wasn’t for those pesky Paddies on the Falls Road’. Don’t you think that Unionism has played just a little, little dinky part in it all?

OH COME ON DC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OF COURSE UNIONISM IS REACTIONARY .. WE ARE NOT TALIKING ABOUT THIS .. THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE pira


Increased segregation you say? Well the IRA are no longer armed or active – lets see if there is less segregation now in the coming years. What do you think is gonna happen? Ask yourself, where does segregaton in Northern Ireland come from? Who instigated it? In whose interests was it institutionalised in the Six Counties?

IN 1968 THERE WAS FAR LESS SEGREGATION THAN NOW .. AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WAS A CROSS CULTURAL MOVEMENT .. OF COURSE THE UNIONISTS WANTED TO SMASH THAT .. THIS THREAD IS PURELY ABOUT WETHER SOMETHING TO STOP THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENNED .. THE ROUTE OF NATIONALISM AND AMED STRUGGLE AS INCREASED THE SEGREGTION

But I’ll say it again – Republican communities are not demoralised, they do not feel defeated. There is a pride in struggle, in collective action. One of the criticism of the IRA from the left is that is methods are one of elitism, but the political struggle encompased everybody in those communities – so many people have played so many active roles over the years and which were not directly about the armed campaign.

SO WHY SO MANY CATHOLICS ON HERE AND ONES I KNOW SAY THAT IS ALL BULLSHIT????


I was making a comment about the general consencus on the left .
Okay, so according to you, it’s a case of not mentioning the partition – well that’s like saying, IGNORE THE PINK ELEPHANT SITTING IN THE FRONT ROOM! It’s an artificial statelet, a relic of the British Empire.

DC PLEASE WHERE DID I SAY DO NOT MENTION PARTITION!!!!!!!! I JUST SAY IT IS NOT THE BE ALL AND END ALL OF POLITICS IN IRELAND .. AND IN FACT IF YOU HAVE NOTICED SF NOW IGNORES PARTITION ...

Tell me, what has been the Loyalist contribution to socialism/anarchism in Ireland? Where was the basis of unity to have come from?

HOW COULD THEY HAVE UNITY WITH A RIGHT WING CATHOLIC PIRA???? ( AS IT WAS INITIALLY) THERE WERE MANY PRODS IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT .. BUT WHEN THE PIRA BECAME THE 'VOICE' OF THE CATHOILCS THAT WAS THAT ... SO DO YOU THINK ALL 'DIFFICULT' GROUPS IN THE WORKING CLASS SHOULD JUST BE BLUDGEONED OR BOMBED INTO SUBMISSION? IS THAT WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENNED WITH THE NOTTS MINERS ( THATS WHY I MENTIONNED THE MINERS STRIKE) .. P.S. AS YOU KNOW MANY OF THE MOST PROGRESSIVE PEOPLE IN IRELAND HAVE COME FROM THE PROTESTANT COMMUNITY ..


Who forced who into what – again, your entire description of the troubles in Norther Ireland fails to mention ONCE the role of Unionism/Loyalism.

DC THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE IRA .. WE ALL KNOW ABOUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH LOYALISM

....

 

[likesfish]

there is a certain type of leftie in england who does get moist at the thought of the IRA and excuses even there most boneheaded horrors. While the w/c class prods are all bone headed bigots or sectarian killers
trying to twist the troubles to fit some marxist ideal of a libertarian struggle misse's some rather uncomfatable facts. the majority population of the north did'nt want to be liberated.
not ignoring the fact that the north had been left to fester for 40 odd years while unionist politicans played at aptheried politics

 

[Nigel]

IT MAY WELL BE FANTASISING .. BUT ALL THOUGHT IS THAT .. THE POINT HERE IS THAT THOUSENDS DIED NEEDLESSLY DUE TO THE W/C OF THE NORTH BEING FORCED BUT USA AND EIRE MIDDLE CLASSES THAT THE OLD WAYS WERE THE BEST .. THEY WEREN'T .. WHAT A WASTE ..

Someone like Eamon McCann calling people middle class is the most hypocritical thing I've heard for ages. I read War and the Irish Town ages ago. As a peice of semi fiction it is an admirable and inspirational work from someone who played a major and positive role in the civil rights movement.(SOME 35+ YEARS AGO). His views seem to be niave and idealistic to say the best.
One point that should be brought up is the sympathy and even support the 'Republican' movement has given to proggressive and 'left' causes, which, would not necessarily act in the interest(e.g. American Support). From the Miners Strike, anti-fascism, anti racism, support for Turkish Communists,Basques, South America, Water Rates etc etc.
When Mo Mowlem visited the Maize, she wrote how astonished she was about the discipline, organisation and dignity of the POW's especially in Education and the Library they had constructed. The main political work the Provo's were advised to read was State & Revolution. Something that many people attacking the the Republican Movement here should be well advised to read which may stop them coming out with the B****x their coming out with here. As had been said before the Irish Republican movement is a broad church, some within it are as reactionary sectarian and bigoted as those in the Orange order and they have commited 'attrocities' that are inexcusible. However the armed struggle that the Provos were forced to take up should be looked on with admiration and honour by all those who thirst for social justice.
(That includes in my opinion the way they dealt with the GFA on the whole)

 

[durruti02]

Someone like Eamon McCann calling people middle class is the most hypocritical thing I've heard for ages. I read War and the Irish Town ages ago. As a peice of semi fiction it is an admirable and inspirational work from someone who played a major and positive role in the civil rights movement.(SOME 35+ YEARS AGO). His views seem to be niave and idealistic to say the best.
One point that should be brought up is the sympathy and even support the 'Republican' movement has given to proggressive and 'left' causes, which, would not necessarily act in the interest(e.g. American Support). From the Miners Strike, anti-fascism, anti racism, support for Turkish Communists,Basques, South America, Water Rates etc etc.
When Mo Mowlem visited the Maize, she wrote how astonished she was about the discipline, organisation and dignity of the POW's especially in Education and the Library they had constructed. The main political work the Provo's were advised to read was State & Revolution. Something that many people attacking the the Republican Movement here should be well advised to read which may stop them coming out with the B****x their coming out with here. As had been said before the Irish Republican movement is a broad church, some within it are as reactionary sectarian and bigoted as those in the Orange order and they have commited 'attrocities' that are inexcusible. However the armed struggle that the Provos were forced to take up should be looked on with admiration and honour by all those who thirst for social justice.
(That includes in my opinion the way they dealt with the GFA on the whole)

try reading it again then .. and don't get the fact that he is no hard core bogsider mixed up with the facts about how events were influenced by both orange 'middle class' and green 'middle class' ..

 

[cemertyone]

You seem to spend a lot more time having a go at the republicans than you do having a go at British Nationalists like the UVF and UDA.

Hmmm.

Yeah revol68`s posts are really strange.Firstly he say`s he`s a Catholic from Larne..a strange conception as there are very few catholic families left in Larne as our Unionist cousins have mostly burnt them out or pipe bombed them in the middle of the night. A fact that he makes little or no mention of at all. And then he spends all his time posting up stuff about the IRA...

 

[revol68]

Yeah revol68`s posts are really strange.Firstly he say`s he`s a Catholic from Larne..a strange conception as there are very few catholic families left in Larne as our Unionist cousins have mostly burnt them out or pipe bombed them in the middle of the night. A fact that he makes little or no mention of at all. And then he spends all his time posting up stuff about the IRA...

oh for fucksake you daft cunt, there were a few people put out, but it wasn't fucking bosnia.

My sister for a start lives in the middle of the most staunchly prod area in the town (boyne square as it is locally known) and she has never had any trouble, the kids go to catholic schools.

As much as I would like to pretend im from a living hell of sectarian murder and mayhem, it's actually been very very quiet in the recently.

Of course that fat little homophobic cunt from the SDLP keeps getting grief, but fuck'em him for being a reactionary fuck, maybe he will learn empathy for victims of homophobic attacks.

 

[sihhi]

Of course that fat little homophobic cunt from the SDLP...

What's his name? I didn't think the SDLP were homophobic.

 

[durruti02]

Imposter!

revo ..it is just not possible that you as a catholic does not solely support the pira/irsp/inla freedom fighters and does not know that all protestants/loyalists are monsters!! you are clearly an imposter!

 

[revol68]

What's his name? I didn't think the SDLP were homophobic.

they generally aren't (well by N Irish political partie standards) but he came out against allowing gay civil arrangements in the council buildngs cos it would make a mockery of marriage.

Danny O'Connor is his name, he's a right miserable fat bastard too, used to steal kids footballs for playing with them in the street.

 

[cemertyone]

Danny O'Connor is his name, he's a right miserable fat bastard too, used to steal kids footballs for playing with them in the street.

Is that the best you can offer??????

 

[cemertyone]

oh for fucksake you daft cunt, there were a few people put out, but it wasn't fucking bosnia.
QUOTE]

Oh that`s nice then. Sorry how many " Was a few"..was it 10/20/50 or a 100. Is it a question of numbers with you or degree?.
What if it had been a hundred would that have been ok? what if it was ten???? are you telling the peeps here that because it was " A few" then that`s alright then..
Tell me as a Catholic living in Larne how did you and your`s escape this secatrianism..

 

[revol68]

oh for fucksake you daft cunt, there were a few people put out, but it wasn't fucking bosnia.
QUOTE]

Oh that`s nice then. Sorry how many " Was a few"..was it 10/20/50 or a 100. Is it a question of numbers with you or degree?.
What if it had been a hundred would that have been ok? what if it was ten???? are you telling the peeps here that because it was " A few" then that`s alright then..
Tell me as a Catholic living in Larne how did you and your`s escape this secatrianism..

why don't you fucking tell me, i haven't heard of more than about 6 in the past 3 years (of course i've was living in Belfast 2 of those years so i can't say it wasn't more, but it certainly wasn't close to 50) .

My point about Danny O'Connor was primarily his homophobia, though he is a well known miserable cunt when it comes to the kids playing football (hardly an unknown trait amongst the kind of cocks who go into local politics) .

And alot of the attacks are very little to do with actual politics and everything about whose pissed off who, eg have you somehow managed to annoy some fucking headcase from the UYM in a pub. Me having the good sense to not drink in Larne pubs and having quite a few prod mates, plus I live in a mixed area (though traditionally it's been seen as a catholic area). actually the area I live in was once set upon in the 70's by a mob of loyalists chasing after a wee lad who had a row i a pub, the area managed to defend itself (ironically with the help of the army who gave tips on how to manufacture a decent petrol bomb, until they could arrive).

So are you telling me that any catholic who hasn't been put out of their house in larne is a some sort of uncle tom?

Or perhaps they just don't give two flying fucks about republicanism?