hermitical
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course I did...
what did you take me for...
what did you take me for...
Industrial Music - the showdown!!!
- Thread starter Paulie Tandoori
- Start date
lights.out.london
Black Flag
If Ministry make the cut, surely NiN ought to? Not that I'm a massive follower of either.
hermitical
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exactly...then you open the floodgates
Ministry but no NON??
Ministry but no NON??
lights.out.london
Black Flag
Minsitry make me smile.
Was the "farewell tour" a farewell tour, or has Al got a monkey on his back again?
Who cares.
Was the "farewell tour" a farewell tour, or has Al got a monkey on his back again?
Who cares.
MysteryGuest
beyond boring and interesting
Controlled Bleeding
Indeed - major omission from the poll! Sort yerself out Paulie!
CB were a funny one in that they often wore their influences on their sleeve, but then did brilliantly original beautiful music, when they eased off on the noise and brought Joe Papa's amazing Russian Orthodox-influenced vocals to the fore, all ice-cold grand-guignol horror-beauty. 'Songs from the Scourging Ground' is a classic LP, all the way through.Anyway, in the absence of Controlled Bleeding, I voted Swans as I still play them quite often now, and it's been fascinating for me to see them develop such a different, more gentle, sound, while still being so clearly the product of the same hugely distinctive musical mind. I really like the new 'Angels of Light'.
lights.out.london
Black Flag
No. But was it them who had a performer amputate (accident) a hand/fingers at that gig. Or was it someone else, elsewhere?
Indeed - major omission from the poll! Sort yerself out Paulie!
Anyway, in the absence of Controlled Bleeding, I voted Swans as I still play them quite often now, and it's been fascinating for me to see them develop such a different, more gentle, sound, while still being so clearly the product of the same hugely distinctive musical mind. I really like the new 'Angels of Light'.
Yeah. I've only heard Penetration, but it appears they did many albums. Actually Penetration is another that I bought in the early 90s, then shoved to the back of my collection, then re-listened to it quite recently and really dug it.
iROBOT
CURRENTLY RE-BOOTING
Nitzer Ebb, Electronic Body Music, Belgian Nu-beat...its all coming flooding back
s'funny you mentioned tackhead and mark stewart cos i did consider sticking them in as well but ultimately thought pretty much the same re: fundamentally different in many ways, yet so close in so many others.
when did it get called industrial? i reckon when spk & EN & TD started hammering lumps of metal iirc but my memory isn't as reliable as it used to be (and it was never that good anyway)
Good question, so i looked it up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_music
Naturally nothing on wiki should be considered definitive, but its a start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Records
So it's down to Throbbing Gristle.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Ministry's early stuff is completely different but it's wicked
Apparently that was all a ploy to trick the record label or something...
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
when did it get called industrial? i reckon when spk & EN & TD started hammering lumps of metal iirc but my memory isn't as reliable as it used to be (and it was never that good anyway
yea, that's kind of what i think.
i remember my mate, larry peterson, used to do a column in sounds called 'lonely planet' around 1983 and i'm pretty sure it wasn't called industrial then.
i do remember the term 'miserabilist' from the misic papers around 1980/81 or in regards to cabaret voltaire and folk who used to wear long coats etc which is a look i remember from going to se ACR and other bands like that back then.
NB: meat beat manifesto emerged a good ten years or so after SPK etc and at least 7 or eight after test dept and neubauten BTW.
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
yes 'twitch' has got some great songs on it. 'all day' and 'angel' in particular.
you know their early stuff is like really pissy new york sub-was not was/material type white funk?
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
strange innit, they're out in front at the mo
yea, but that's cos they probably represent what people rergard as 'industrial' now, which IMO is pasically post-goth MTV generation noisy electronic music with guitars for folk who dress in black PVC trousers and wear those big 'gene simmons' boots you get on camden high st.
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
well, carl craig was a big TG fan , as were lots of the original detroit and chicago artists. i've got tapes of ron hardy and frankie knuckles playing 'hot on the heels'
chico enrico
No hair shows you care.
or as i said in my first post most definately not and this is just GPO doing his usual trying to get credit for people drinking water type schtick. the fact their label was called 'industrial records' was almost an appendage to the genre being termed, which i'm pretty sure was around the time test dept, neubauten and SPK started doing all that metal bashing malarkey.
NB: first became aware of laibach around 1984 when they brought out a boxed set thing and played in london. which i'd say was around the height of the PTV/TOPY thang.
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Can I throw in an old Peel favourite-Tool You Can Trust
and a current 1927 favourite A Place To Bury Strangers
and a current 1927 favourite A Place To Bury Strangers
Ministry in front made me vote (something i've never done before).
Ministry are shit.
SWANS (although a great band) are not Industrial (they're a rock band). Suicide are more Industrial (they're the original urban sound).
What about :Zoviet*France: you fuckers? recording the sound of stones in a washing machine back in 81 or something...?
fucking ministry, jesus.
Ministry are shit.
SWANS (although a great band) are not Industrial (they're a rock band). Suicide are more Industrial (they're the original urban sound).
What about :Zoviet*France: you fuckers? recording the sound of stones in a washing machine back in 81 or something...?
fucking ministry, jesus.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
yeh but how cool is that that they're neck and neck with TG eh?
i was including mr j so we could include the revco's as well, a bit like TG/PTV. didn't expect the fucker to win the vote like........
miserabilist i think i have vague recollections of such genres and writings.
i was including mr j so we could include the revco's as well, a bit like TG/PTV. didn't expect the fucker to win the vote like........
miserabilist
i think i have vague recollections of such genres and writings.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
yes, i thought of lard as well earlier on, that was very very wierd but wonderful music.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
Indeed - major omission from the poll! Sort yerself out Paulie!
Anyway, in the absence of Controlled Bleeding, I voted Swans as I still play them quite often now, and it's been fascinating for me to see them develop such a different, more gentle, sound, while still being so clearly the product of the same hugely distinctive musical mind. I really like the new 'Angels of Light'.
*bows in the presence of industrial genius*fark off. i listened to some controlled bleeding when RD posted the name and they're a bit poncey tbh. i like my industrial proper hardcore, noisy things and proper attitude and that, just like you
but you are correct that swans are/were cool, loudest noise that i've ever heard.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
fark off. i listened to some controlled bleeding when RD posted the name and they're a bit poncey tbh. i like my industrial proper hardcore, noisy things and proper attitude and that, just like you
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
each to their own
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
but you voted for coil you nutter. young gods is a good shout to be fair.Another anti-vote from me for shitty Ministry. I'd have The Young Gods and Cop Shoot Cop on there ahead of them.
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