Industrial Music - the showdown!!!

[chico enrico]

yea, seems industrial means all things to all people from some of the bands listed here.

jut rmembered i've got a 7" box set called the dignity of labour and a few albums by dutch band The Ex which is basically ALL metal bashine, very very similar to early test dept and must have come out around 1982 or 83 but they were never regarded as 'industrial' - in fact they were always regarded as 'anarcho punk'

and although i think they're a pair of cocks i'd say monte cazazza and boyd rice would also be worthy of inclusion if only for their early recordings.

but, isn't everyone forgetting something? -

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SAtPa_IoDv8

 

[asbestos]

and although i think they're a pair of cocks i'd say monte cazazza and boyd rice would also be worthy of inclusion if only for their early recordnings.

good call.

What was that Cazazza record with the mic'ed up motorbike exhaust? ( i may be well off here..)

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Minstry used to be a depche mode rip off band -did you know *that* though?

i have two 7" singles from Ministry's early career. he (ie al jorgenson) looks like such a noooo-romantic.......

 

[Orang Utan]

i have two 7" singles from Ministry's early career. he (ie al jorgenson) looks like such a noooo-romantic.......

One track of theirs which is ace is Over Your Shoulder



Anyway, who's gonna stick up an industrial mix for me?

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

give me a few days and i might have a pop. need to figure out how to mix me vinyl and cds. mussolini headkick rule

 

[chico enrico]

good call.

What was that Cazazza record with the mic'ed up motorbike exhaust? ( i may be well off here..)

woah!! you mean jordi vallis' VAGINA DENTATA ORGAN project on WSO ?

his stuff's quality.

but, though a signifiucant and criminally neglected figure in the whole 'industrial' set up, i dont know if you would term his recordings 'industrial' or even 'music' , though i'd rather listen to his work than most of the bands listed above.

 

[Orang Utan]

now you've got me listening to this

EBM thread here:
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=266423

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

think will stick to my thread thank you very much

 

[asbestos]

One track of theirs which is ace is Over Your Shoulder



Anyway, who's gonna stick up an industrial mix for me?

I'm sure you're familiar with this modern take on it (although there is a few old tracks on here)

http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19086&highlight=161206

 

[asbestos]

woah!! you mean jordi vallis' VAGINA DENTATA ORGAN project on WSO ?

his stuff's quality.

but, though a signifiucant and criminally neglected figure in the whole 'industrial' set up, i dont know if you would term his recordings 'industrial' or even 'music' , though i'd rather listen to his work than most of the bands listed above.

Yeah, that's the one

 

[Orang Utan]

I'm sure you're familiar with this modern take on it (although there is a few old tracks on here)

http://www.littledetroit.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19086&highlight=161206

That's techno!

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

none of those links work4me

is industrial? it's not far off imo,....no big lumps of metal is all......

 

[asbestos]

That's techno!

If people are voting for stuff like Ministry, then i'm gonna link to some proper industrial techno

There was a really good old-skool industrial mix floating around on LD, but I can't find it.

 

[asbestos]

none of those links work4me

megaupload is still graftin'.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

thobbing gristle ftw so far you don't know where you come from unless you know where you been,,,,,

 

[killer b]

you need to track down paul meme's ambient industrial mix from a few years ago clyde (called 'the first taste of hope is fear'). jeff probably still has it - unfortunately the computer of mine it was on is dead,

 

[killer b]

here's his blog post about it... the audio is long gone though. http://blog.grievousangel.net/the-first-taste-of-hope-is-fear-ambient-industrial-1980-1987

 

[killer b]

ooooooh, i found it: http://beemp3.com/download.php?file...Hope+Is+Fear+Ambient+Industrial+1980-1987+Mix

seriously, this mix RULES.

 

[asbestos]

ooooooh, i found it: http://beemp3.com/download.php?file...Hope+Is+Fear+Ambient+Industrial+1980-1987+Mix

seriously, this mix RULES.

That's the one I was trying to find on LD, nice one

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

s'wierd, it's nearly all blokes who have voted on this why no ladies???

 

[chico enrico]

s'wierd, it's nearly all blokes who have voted on this why no ladies???

haha...the internet...industrial music... need you ask?

 

[killer b]

s'wierd, it's nearly all blokes who have voted on this why no ladies???

you're kidding? industrial music is tailor-made for spotty boys with no social skills...

 

[Orang Utan]

I think he is kidding, everyone

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I can't be arsed listening to any of it any more, but probably TG.

In terms of the origin, Monte Cazazza apparently came up with the slogan "Industrial Music For Industrial People" which inspired the name "Industrial Records", which started in 1976 iirc.

Dunno when it caught on as a "genre" and presumably every single person involved refused to describe themselves as an "industrial band" because we're all individuals maaaaaaaaaaan.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Best live act out of the ones I've seen:

Coil / Einsturzende Neubauten / Ministry / Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel / Swans / Test Department / Throbbing Gristle* / Whitehouse

Would be Test Dept tho. Absolutely amazing.

*But only saw them as the pseudo "TG Ltd" i.e. Gen and some mates circa 1988.

 

[El Jefe]

I can't be arsed listening to any of it any more, but probably TG.

Shut it, goth boy

 

[Blagsta]

I've seen Test Dept twice. Once at a Hawkwind technicolour dreamshow thing at Brixton Academy in 1993 where they were awesome and once in the Que Club in Birmingham in 1995 where they were let down by a crap PA.

 

[El Jefe]

Last time i saw Test Dept was at the last Cooltan party. Stunning

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Yeah I saw them a few times, the first being 87 or thereabouts at the Hackney Empire - benefit for the striking print workers at Wapping.

I think me and a mate had come up to town to see Julian Cope but it was sold out so I suggested an alternative...

I thought their dancier stuff was a bit shit on vinyl (except for the 12" with leon brittan on the cover) but they really did it well live.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

i loved Test Dept, the Unacceptable Face of Freedom album was a stunner and i enjoyed Pax Brittanica a lot as well.

i agree that they were a treat live, i have vague memories of a couple of festies they did, Urban Free Festie being one iirc?