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If god exists, would you worship him?

If God actually existed, and really wanted to be worshipped, I would consider him/her/it to be either fantastically narcissistic and/or phenomenally insecure.

It'd be like a man creating microscopic bugs in a petri dish to see what cool stuff they could do, then having a hissyfit because the bugs didn't spend their days worshipping their almighty creator. Clearly that man would be a complete tool.
 
I think that even if it could be proved beyond all reasonable doubt that god does exist, I doubt that I would worship him - especially if it was the god described by Catholicism, Islam, and other organised religions

He seems very vindictive and petty, as well as largely indifferent to peoples' suffering.

I can almost understand why people would believe that god exists - even though I personally do not. But to then decide to worship such a being? I don't understand that

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What if It needs us to observe and notice and interact with it in order to have any sense of Itself?

What if we were created in order for that to happen.

We co-create God as and when we interact with it.

So... before we came along, it did not know itself, nor therefore did it know what it was doing. Huh, makes sense.
 
Which iteration of the god rules would be in play? because if we knew that, then I'd go for a life doing whatever I liked and then going for a small-print death-bed heaven pitch.
 
The Bible doesn't say that he has a cock, but we have to assume he has God balls as he filled a turkey baster for Gabriel to squirt up Mary.

The essence of being a "He" is having testicles isn't it? Producing sperm anyway, and Godders seem quite firm on the fact that God is definitely a He. Thus cock.
 
My point is....we are wholly reaponsible for what we do.

Which is why some sly buggers called "priests" invented the idea of deities - to hand off that responsibility to some nebulous critter who can then be claimed to have caused disasters in retribution for transgressions against the priesthood.

Fucking good racket, too.
 
Which is why some sly buggers called "priests" invented the idea of deities - to hand off that responsibility to some nebulous critter who can then be claimed to have caused disasters in retribution for transgressions against the priesthood.

Fucking good racket, too.

In truth, humans have held the idea of a supreme being for a very long time. Despite "priests".
 
In truth, humans have held the idea of a supreme being for a very long time. Despite "priests".

True, but unmediated deities tend to be a bit more "rain on the crops", and a little less "smite the sinners for they have not given enough to the priestly caste for new vestments".
 
True, but unmediated deities tend to be a bit more "rain on the crops", and a little less "smite the sinners for they have not given enough to the priestly caste for new vestments".

It's the architecture of our social-mammal brains, there's a process in how we see the world that's always looking for a face, there's a process in how we see the world that's always looking for who's in charge.
 
It's the architecture of our social-mammal brains, there's a process in how we see the world that's always looking for a face, there's a process in how we see the world that's always looking for who's in charge.
When we're little, mummy & daddy have all the answers. When we grow up, we'd still like there to be an all knowing parental figure, something that cares about us, something that can console us in our ignorance. Facing up to the reality of an uncaring, dispassionate universe is troublesome for many. Hardly a surprise that so many turn to religion. I imagine that any sufficiently intelligent species would eventually invent God. Perhaps we, collectively as a species, have to reach an even higher level of intelligence before we can finally abandon the notion entirely.
 
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When we're little, mummy & daddy have all the answers. When we grow up, we'd still like there to be an all knowing parental figure, something that cares about us, something that can console us in our ignorance. Facing up to the reality of an uncaring, dispassionate universe is troublesome for many. Hardly a surprise that so many turn to religion. I imagine that any sufficiently intelligent species would eventually invent God. Perhaps we, collectively as a species, have to reach an even higher level of intelligence before we can finally abandon the notion entirely.
An ideal, ultimate embodiment of morality and good luck is not necessarily a bad thing. It's all a question of application.
 
My point is....we are wholly reaponsible for what we do.

And my point is that trying to apply the typical trick of Monkeysphere-based thinking - finding someone to blame - doesn't work when you're dealing with billions of people, the vast majority of whom have little control over the behaviour of their peers. for example; how are workers in Bolivia responsible for anything the Indian government does?

God, being a (supposedly) all-powerful and all-knowing individual who created us in the first place, or arranged things so that we evolved or whatever, can be blamed. He/she/it is not limited to the Monkeysphere. He/she/it is fully in control of the whole situation on Earth right from the start, and yet for some reason chooses to make us so that we are able to create a global civilisation that evolution and our own previous history has left us ill-prepared to manage properly, and then chooses to leave us to our fate once we reach that point and start screwing up in a major way.
 
And my point is that trying to apply the typical trick of Monkeysphere-based thinking - finding someone to blame - doesn't work when you're dealing with billions of people, the vast majority of whom have little control over the behaviour of their peers. for example; how are workers in Bolivia responsible for anything the Indian government does?

God, being a (supposedly) all-powerful and all-knowing individual who created us in the first place, or arranged things so that we evolved or whatever, can be blamed. He/she/it is not limited to the Monkeysphere. He/she/it is fully in control of the whole situation on Earth right from the start, and yet for some reason chooses to make us so that we are able to create a global civilisation that evolution and our own previous history has left us ill-prepared to manage properly, and then chooses to leave us to our fate once we reach that point and start screwing up in a major way.

Why should God be responsible for human fuck ups? You ask "how are workers in Bolivia responsible for anything the Indian government does?"...they're not. The Indian government is responsible for what it does.

We are individually responsible for individual actions and thoughts.
And...we are also collectively responsible for our collective actions and thoughts...be that collective small or large.
If you impact on someone's life in a negative way then you are responsible for that impact.
Nobody else is responsible.
Surely?
 
I believe in God (not as a person or that kind of entity....) and I dont worship anything. We, as humans alive, have a divine spark in each of us though. Each human is sacred.
 
And my point is that trying to apply the typical trick of Monkeysphere-based thinking - finding someone to blame - doesn't work when you're dealing with billions of people, the vast majority of whom have little control over the behaviour of their peers. for example; how are workers in Bolivia responsible for anything the Indian government does?

God, being a (supposedly) all-powerful and all-knowing individual who created us in the first place, or arranged things so that we evolved or whatever, can be blamed. He/she/it is not limited to the Monkeysphere. He/she/it is fully in control of the whole situation on Earth right from the start, and yet for some reason chooses to make us so that we are able to create a global civilisation that evolution and our own previous history has left us ill-prepared to manage properly, and then chooses to leave us to our fate once we reach that point and start screwing up in a major way.

I'm annoyed that the Great Planet-sized Head hasn't waded in on this Trump matter yet. I hold said Head ultimately responsible for this lamentable situation. As you know the Head orbits Planet 9.
 
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