If god exists, would you worship him?

[littlebabyjesus]

No I wouldn't and I would go as far as challenging this god to a duel.

Best answer by a mile.

 

[JimW]

Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven, as the poet said. Though I've probably misremembered.

 

[killer b]

Ah, the arrogance of believers. You not only know there's a god, you know what it thinks!

I don't think it's arrogance. If you believe in the christian god, that is what he thinks.

 

[Chilli.s]

Im sure god would worship me if it/he/she did exist.

 

[Casually Red]

I don't think it's arrogance. If you believe in the christian god, that is what he thinks.

It's not arrogance, it's just certainty . I certainly don't think I'm better than anyone .

 

[T & P]

If there is an omniscient, omnipotent and all loving god, I suspect that he/she/it would be put off by people worshipping it.

And just as importantly, he/she would know if people were worshipping him/her out of fear or as an insurance policy to maximise their chances of getting into heaven. Which might rule out a great many worshippers.

If it was revealed there was a god, I'd call him a cunt tbh. No point trying to suddenly start kissing arse trying to save your skin. And at the end of the day he'd have a lot more questions to answer about his actions than any human.

 

[ViolentPanda]

No G-ds, no masters.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

Im sure god would worship me if it/he/she did exist.

 

[NoXion]

Which god?

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

God gets the blame for all the man made shit in the world....we fuck up and get the luxury of waving fists at God..and saying things like, "If there really is a God then why are people starving and dying...why is there so much hate and violence?" "Why does God let these things happen?".
Yet we are the ones who allow people starve. We allow violence and war. We vote in leaders who use war for the sake of peace. We turn a blind eye to corrupt governments who let their own people starve. Humans are fucked up...and then they blame religion or god.

So we destroy God...but we are still in a fucked up world full of fucked up people fucking up the planet. Nothing changes.

If there is a God...then the disappointment in us must be huge.

 

[Sprocket.]

God is man's way of putting his guilty conscience onto something other than himself.
And it is doubtful I could worship anything!

 

[NoXion]

God gets the blame for all the man made shit in the world....we fuck up and get the luxury of waving fists at God..and saying things like, "If there really is a God then why are people starving and dying...why is there so much hate and violence?" "Why does God let these things happen?".
Yet we are the ones who allow people starve. We allow violence and war. We vote in leaders who use war for the sake of peace. We turn a blind eye to corrupt governments who let their own people starve. Humans are fucked up...and then they blame religion or god.

So we destroy God...but we are still in a fucked up world full of fucked up people fucking up the planet. Nothing changes.

If there is a God...then the disappointment in us must be huge.

It's still god's fault. He/she/it supposedly created us with all the specific properties and tendencies we have, in the full knowledge that we would go on to do the things we have done and will do. On the other hand, since humans are neither omnipotent nor omniscient nor eternal, unlike god is often claimed to be, there's no way we could have turned out better than we have actually done by ourselves, short of turning back time and getting lucky. We would have made and would be making the same kind of mistakes, because we have to learn shit about both ourselves and the wider universe we live in. If god exists he/she/it has clearly left us to stumble along with nothing to help us but a bunch of contradictory tales about him/her/it and the vast, indifferent universe they supposedly created. Like an abusively neglectful parent, god has abandoned us in the complete knowledge of our fate.

We have to fend ourselves no matter what. But in no way does that absolve from blame an omnipotent, omniscient and eternal creator god.

 

[brogdale]

I think that even if it could be proved beyond all reasonable doubt that god does exist, I doubt that I would worship him - especially if it was the god described by Catholicism, Islam, and other organised religions

He seems very vindictive and petty, as well as largely indifferent to peoples' suffering.

I can almost understand why people would believe that god exists - even though I personally do not. But to then decide to worship such a being? I don't understand that

You appear to hold some very certain views about the existence of this "being" his gender, state of mind and capacity for empathy.

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

It's still god's fault. He/she/it supposedly created us with all the specific properties and tendencies we have, in the full knowledge that we would go on to do the things we have done and will do. On the other hand, since humans are neither omnipotent nor omniscient nor eternal, unlike god is often claimed to be, there's no way we could have turned out better than we have actually done by ourselves, short of turning back time and getting lucky. We would have made and would be making the same kind of mistakes, because we have to learn shit about both ourselves and the wider universe we live in. If god exists he/she/it has clearly left us to stumble along with nothing to help us but a bunch of contradictory tales about him/her/it and the vast, indifferent universe they supposedly created. Like an abusively neglectful parent, god has abandoned us in the complete knowledge of our fate.

We have to fend ourselves no matter what. But in no way does that absolve from blame an omnipotent, omniscient and eternal creator god.

Nah... if we fuck it all up, then it's our fault.
The animals, the birds, the trees, haven't fucked the world up....we have. Humans.
We compete with each other for our destructive potential. We threaten each other with annihilation..we are pathetic excusers of our own deeds and we blame shift and renege on our own responsibilities.

 

[NoXion]

Nah... if we fuck it all up, then it's our fault.

Why? If god created us, they did so in the full knowledge that we would fuck up. That makes it their fault for creating us.

The animals, the birds, the trees, haven't fucked the world up....we have. Humans.

Other animals fuck things up all the time... it's not like extinctions never happened before we came along. We might be the first animals to have an effect on the entire planet, but we also invented the concept of environmentalism.

We compete with each other for our destructive potential. We threaten each other with annihilation..we are pathetic excusers of our own deeds and we blame shift and renege on our own responsibilities.

And if god created us, then it's their fault because they made us that way.

 

[NoXion]

Let me put it this way; if I deliberately created a race of robots with a tendency to occasionally go fucking crazy and kill a bunch of humans, would anyone really accept my excuse of "It's not my fault, I programmed them with free will!"?

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

Let me put it this way; if I deliberately created a race of robots with a tendency to occasionally go fucking crazy and kill a bunch of humans, would anyone really accept my excuse of "It's not my fault, I programmed them with free will!"?

Let's put it this way....we are able to see the damage we have done, yet we are plunging forward deliberately causing even more damage. We are fully aware of how fucked up we are and we are not doing enough to stop our own extinction.
We and only we fucked us up.

 

[NoXion]

Let's put it this way....we are able to see the damage we have done, yet we are plunging forward deliberately causing even more damage. We are fully aware of how fucked up we are and we are not doing enough to stop our own extinction.
We and only we fucked us up.

Humans aren't a hive-mind. We've never done this "massive interconnected planetary civilisation of billions" thing before, and we're poorly-equipped for it mentally speaking (look up Dunbar's Number). Regardless of our origins, we've been dealt a crap hand from the start. It's only recently, historically speaking, that humans have learnt that there's a limit to how much damage the environment can take.

As for our extinction, we're doing quite well for a species that is supposedly doomed. Numbers in the billions, with population growth levelling off no less. Even if that's not good enough to avert disaster, we've survived major climatic shifts and population crashes before. Not saying that it would be pleasant for anyone involved but there's a lot of room between nothing and the apocalypse.

 

[kabbes]

No I wouldn't and I would go as far as challenging this god to a duel.

You'd totally lose, dude. But if you insist, I would suggest you hit his weak spot for massive damage.

 

[DotCommunist]

Non Serviam

hell doesn't sound all that bad anyway, all the cool people are going to hell

 

[fredfelt]

As an atheist I take issue with Humanism. Humanism is essentially the worship of humans, the belief that, if only we could find a way for our innate potential to be released all will be good with the world. An inward looking approach.

An outward looking belief system seems a far better option. A concept of 'god' supports this. So why not, look outward and see what's to be found.

 

[SpookyFrank]

If there's a god, he probably knows he's all powerful and generally pretty great. So he probably gets bored of all those billions of people reminding him of it all the fucking time. So instead of 'allahu akbar', god is great, I'd be more inclined to use my prayers to check on how god was doing. Something along the lines of:

Allah are you OK?
Are you OK?
Are you OK Allah?

 

[kabbes]

As an atheist I take issue with Humanism. Humanism is essentially the worship of humans(1), the belief that, if only we could find a way for our innate potential to be released all will be good with the world(2). An inward looking approach(3).

An outward looking belief system seems a far better option(4). A concept of 'god' supports this(5). So why not, look outward and see what's to be found(6).

So much wrong here, I've had to separate it out.
(1) No it isn't.
(2) There's nothing wrong with that belief, actually. Sounds good to me.
(3) It isn't inward -- you are using inward to mean two different things. Looking at other humans is looking outwards.
(4) Begging the question.
(5) No it doesn't, if the concept of "god" is purely an inner one.
(6) Not god, for a start.

 

[Thimble Queen]

 

[DotCommunist]

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I can almost understand why people would believe that god exists - even though I personally do not. But to then decide to worship such a being? I don't understand that

Fear the wrath of god. Not a terribly good reason I grant you.

 

[Thimble Queen]

Oh Dotty

 

[tim]

Even if you didn't worship her would you, a least, call her on the phone?

 

[DotCommunist]

In that song she claims that the only people calling on the phone to the almighty are the pope in rome. Well the coptic and orthodox popes probably ring as well, but her gross revisionism ignores them

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

Humans aren't a hive-mind. We've never done this "massive interconnected planetary civilisation of billions" thing before, and we're poorly-equipped for it mentally speaking (look up Dunbar's Number). Regardless of our origins, we've been dealt a crap hand from the start. It's only recently, historically speaking, that humans have learnt that there's a limit to how much damage the environment can take.

As for our extinction, we're doing quite well for a species that is supposedly doomed. Numbers in the billions, with population growth levelling off no less. Even if that's not good enough to avert disaster, we've survived major climatic shifts and population crashes before. Not saying that it would be pleasant for anyone involved but there's a lot of room between nothing and the apocalypse.

My point is....we are wholly reaponsible for what we do.