Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Of course you don't have to answer, but it doesn't look good if all you can come up with is evasive "some"isms and insults.
Identity Politics: the impasse, the debate, the thread.
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Of course you don't have to answer, but it doesn't look good if all you can come up with is evasive "some"isms and insults.
AllEternalsHeck
Active Member
This makes literally no sense.
Treacle Toes
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Here you go again. My suggestion to delete wasn't because you don't agree with her...it was that you don't feel empowered to disagree with them, don't actually like her and clearly don't rate her as a friend.
I have people on my friends list I don't always agree with. I don't have people on my fb list that I don't like though.
Treacle Toes
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Yes it does. Just like it did when I made the point before. If these opinions/ideas are everywhere you have ample opportunity to engage with them and challenge them in other settings. There is no need in hanging onto that one fb person you dislike because you have other opportunities to explore these issues.
Treacle Toes
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Nice attempt at a swerve there rob. You know what I meant. Speak to me like that and i'll do likewise. You waded in with a prickish tone for no reason, you got the same back and didn't like it. Diddums.
AllEternalsHeck
Active Member
I don't mind her as a person. She has a nice dog which I like seeing the pictures of. Her politics are problematic but then I don't agree politically with a lot of people on my fb. It's ok just to not bother arguing in that sphere.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
You're quite the one for projection, aren't you.
Treacle Toes
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Piss poor. Again.
AllEternalsHeck
Active Member
It doesn't make sense because I've already said that's not my criteria for who I keep on facebook.
Treacle Toes
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Are you going to ask them in a decent way or just insist I bow down to your demands that you get to be/speak to me like a snidey, manipulative, arsehole?
Treacle Toes
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Now you have. You hadn't before to this extent. I also asked a few questions of you about how and when you do your politics. It would be nice to have some answers to those when you have time.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Its a good thing i inspired you to change your tagline. It really is quite apt.
Treacle Toes
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Given that you don't seem to do anything else here other than throw insults around, I am glad you feel you have accomplished something this year.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Given that you don't seem to do anything else here other than throw insults around, I am glad you feel you have accomplished something this year.
Like I said, most apt
Treacle Toes
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Like I said, glad to help you represent your achievements. Better than nothing I suppose.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Like I said, glad to help you represent your achievements. Better than nothing I suppose.
Flattered you take such an interest in me, as well as such inspiration
Have fun raging
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
One thing that's quite interesting about this exchange is that the very person who sees no issue with the use of self-curated social media experiences eliminating disagreement is the one who's immediately thrown a huge tantrum when challenged on their perspective. Social study in the making there 
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Treacle Toes
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Flattered you take such an interest, as well as such inspiration
Have fun raging
Another pathetic attempt at witty arrogance. Keep trying dear. I'm one to champion an underdog so I'll always celebrate you at least.
Treacle Toes
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One thing that's quite interesting about this exchange is that the very person who sees no issue with the use of self-curated social media experiences eliminating disagreement is the one who's immediately thrown a huge tantrum when challenged on their perspective. Social study in the making there
But I haven't thrown a tantrum. I've merely insisted that if you expect me to interact with you you should communicate in the manner/tone that you like to be addressed in also. The tantrum thrower is you, because somehow that isn't how you think things should go. You seem to think you can demand and condesend to and by some sort of magical reverence bestowed on you, you get your own way. Now you have your tag-team of whingey-bedlam you feel emboldened. You imagine I care or am intimidated, i don't and i'm not . Study that, prick.
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andysays
Love and solidarity
Well, the last few pages have certainly provided us (or at least those of us able to recognise them) a clear illustration of the impasse of identity politics, haven't they?
Unfortunately, the most vocal proponents of IDPol nonsense recognise neither that's what their position actually is nor the utterly destructive effects of their behaviour, both on threads like this and in the wider world.
Unfortunately, the most vocal proponents of IDPol nonsense recognise neither that's what their position actually is nor the utterly destructive effects of their behaviour, both on threads like this and in the wider world.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
But I haven't thrown a tantrum. I've merely insisted that if you expect me to interact with you you should communicate in the manner/tone that you like to be addressed in also. The tantrum thrower is you, because somehow that isn't how you think things should go. You seem to think you can demand and condesend to and by some sort of magical reverence bestowed on you, you get your own way. Now you have your tag-team of whingey-bedlam you feel emboldened. You imagine I care or am intimidated, i'm not and i don't. Study that, prick.
Yet here you are.
Everyone’s wrong but Rutita. Again
Treacle Toes
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Not everyone no, just those that are, when they are. Nice try again Mr Nobody.
AllEternalsHeck
Active Member
Volunteering, study, work. Trying to build a career where I can help make a difference. My postgraduate research is with people who suffer from deprivation, isolation, drug addiction etc. I'm trying to help develop interventions to offer people pathways out of addiction into employment, training, positive social networks. I used to volunteer for an organisation that supported the families of people with drug issues.
One reason why I bristle at the idpol conception of privilege is because my work is with predominantly white men who are extremely deprived. I am very aware that social class produces a greater gradient in life outcomes than any other factors.
I try not to talk about politics too much in real life. But I let my convictions guide my career aspirations so I can perhaps make a positive impact in this very specific field. I also do try to be true to my convictions and speak my beliefs in real life if political stuff comes up in conversation. I think when I was younger I was a bit more argumentative but nowadays I won't bring up politics and am more accepting of letting others have their views.
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Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
I dread to think what you imagine a tantrum would look like then.
snadge
metal alchemist
Nope. You are missing my point entirely. I don't have friends on FB that I would be too scared to disagree with. You do.
You are too scared to speak up, tell her/them what you think for fear that you will be jumped on by her hoardes of agreeing friends. So why keep her as a friend? It's not like FB is the hot bed of your political expression is it? You've said yourself that these ideas are everywhere. If FB was so important you'd be in there preaching the politics of solidarity and highlighting how she is excluding you wouldn't you? Instead you keep her as a pet, someone you can read the posts of and sigh to yourself, blame for all that is wrong, bitch about here on urban?
At the same time you are posting as if my having boundaries and not keeping people as fb friends when I clearly dislike them is somehow wrong. Like that is automatically insulating myself, creating an echo chamber etc. You are wrong. Social media isn't where the action is for me at all. Arrogant much?
The tone of this thread is so fucking condescending I do wonder whether some here do more than spend all day winking at themselves in the mirror.
Point, point, point...oh look at them, doing it wrong, point, point, point. How wonderful I am because I am not like them.
Preaching the politics of solidarity through criticising others, yet doing nothing meaningful that they care to share themselves. Not necessarily aimed at you AllEternalsHeck but please do tell me...if you aren't prepared to challenge that one person on your fb friends list how are you in a position to preach to me or anyone? Perhaps you feel as I do that politics are better practiced in the everyday, so do that through work, unionism, community interests/projects, support of global/local campaigns? Interests fundamentally borne of the belief in social justice and equality/equity. Do you?
There are some on this thread that don't exist as people/personalities here unless they are othering someone else, misrepresenting them, trying oh so hard to carve out a superficial online personality that they can be proud of.
Oh and don't get me started on the fucking irony of past accusations of virtue signalling.
Shut the fuck up about being scared about ' dealing' with people you know that have offensive views.
All I seen of you is that you try to passive aggress them online.
I know, work and socialise with these people, guess what, I deal with them in real life also, you wouldn't have the fucking bottle.
You are missing the target, as you have always done.
Treacle Toes
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Eh? WTF are you talking about snadge? I am not scared in the slightest.
So what, join the club, most of us have no choice but to know, or work with people we don't always agree with.
Seriously shut the fuck up yourself if this bullshit attack is all you've got.
snadge
metal alchemist
So tell the boards how you tell them that you are right?
Treacle Toes
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Eh? Them who? What are they wrong about? Or do you just expect me to make up a situation where someone says something I disagree with and I tell them I disagree?
You are being a tad odd tbh.
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