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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
He'd claimed that Livingstone wasn't up to the job of being co-convener of the party's trident review committee.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Intra-party factional war?
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
One would imagine having large swathes of the PLP using any excuse (however inappropriate) and going to any lengths to have a pop at their leader and a media who have never given Corbyn anything remotely like a fair hearing, has probably resulted in quite a bit of stress building up - hence today's events. Of course once it happened it was always going to be seized on and ran with by all concerned, just like the "he didn't sing", "he didn't bow at the correct angle" and "he doesn't think it is a good idea to once again do what we have been doing in the middle east to such spectacular effect" have been.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yeah, but Livingstone handed it to them on a plate, didn't he?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
two reasons leap to mind - firstly the comedic ineptness of the appointment. he puts his shadow defence spokeswoman in charge of a wideranging defence and security policy review and then some weeks later appoints someone with limited personal skills as far as the rest of the PLP is concerned to 'co-author' the review without telling the person he'd appointed in the first place. she finds out via twitter.
impressive.
secondly, the appointment itself is both inept and clumsy. the 'review' by Labours Defence team is a sop to the PLP, it will merely be a submission to the Policy Forum which Corbyn intends to pack with his supporters who will reject most of it and ignore the rest. appointing Livingstone to 'co author' it, despite him having no political background in defence or foreign policy, won't change the outcome of the policy forum, but it will make the submission disjointed, offends - even further - those wthin the PLP who don't like Corbyn and his friends, and loses the support of those who cling - bizarrely - to the hope the Corbyn can be persuaded to take their views.
equally impressive.
Livingstone then goes and makes some stunningly offensive, personal remarks about Jones and refuses to apologise. its a hat trick.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
He is, though not on the same level as Gapes, Mann, Danczuk and the rest.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
He apologised about the mental health comments, but fuck me, what a tool
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
He did, but he was always going to have that exposed - just as any slip, or perceived slip, or even coming out with something that is demonstrably sensible, by Corbyn or his supporters will be.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
he apologised eventually, after Corbyn had to lean very hard on him. he did refuse to apologise earlier when the BBC let him know that his comments could be regarded as somewhat outside the rough and tumble because of Jones's history of depression - that was the point at which he gave the 'if someones rude to me...' thing. he's a cock.
he could have got away with it by immediately coughing and saying 'oh shit, sorry - really insensitive, apologise profusely, stupid thing to say' etc... but he pushed that opportunity away with both hands.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Kevan Jones likes saying 'the fact of the matter', doesn't he?
hipipol
Peckham Wry
Ken, for all his skills as a leader in London, both the GLC and this incarnation, has absolutely no experience inb world affairs - I cite the example of his "cheap oil deal" with Venezuela as the most obvious example of his lamb to the slaughter lack of experience in this area
War, as clauswitz re-quoted, not sure where from, but still valid, is diplomacy by stronger/other means (before the barrage of corrections arrive I realise that's mangled, but hopefully you will accept the sense remains...)
He really is the wrong man for this
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
What do you think qualifies someone for this role?
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
hipipol
Peckham Wry
I had not read the other comments prior to replying to cantsin ( rather hubristic name there mate!!) but see that the shallow understanding of the Holy Koran and even more limited understanding of the nature of Bangla/Sylhetti politics allowed him to back the neo-gangsterism of Lutfur Rahman _ I don't want that sort of idiotic cronyism deployed as part of policy anywhere other than in that twats newt pond
hipipol
Peckham Wry
Some moral compass and a rather less developed eye for the main chance
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Where in Parliament do you honestly expect find someone with any sort of "moral compass"?
hipipol
Peckham Wry
Can we deal with the 21st c
Admittedly, that twats a criminal of more than one century......
I still don't make Ken an international smartypants
hipipol
Peckham Wry
So, lets make no effort at all then?
If they are all such lying piles of shite, why don't you stand
Maybe you'll make a difference
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
I don't know why you're got such a bee in your bonnet about Ken when the rest of them are arguably far far worse.
Tankus
Amused OAP
It's all a Milgrams experiment ......Corbyns a psychological plant ...... pushing and twisting them to see how and who will break ....there are men in white lab coats hidden in the toilets taking notes... 30 years in the planning ...to see just how much disillusionment ,humiliation, and disbelief that a socialist can take .
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
I don't know why you're got such a bee in your bonnet about Ken when the rest of them are arguably far far worse.
hipipol
Peckham Wry
The current leadership of the Labour party at least are honestly commited to the welfare of the people
Ken jsutb likes the idea of KenSupremo as a world leader/emperor
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