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How much evidence is there of long term high level UK paedophile ring?

On that C$ piece:

The resident said he did inform police: "I made a statement to South Wales Police with regard to some alleged offences in SW area - a statement was taken but didn't hear anything else about it."
 
What's Watson's game here? Is he deliberately lying to embarrass the Tories or has the publicity he got over hacking gone to his head?

Nasty man.
 
What's Watson's game here? Is he deliberately lying to embarrass the Tories or has the publicity he got over hacking gone to his head?

Nasty man.

he maybe a publicity hungry cheesepiece but he is at least standing up and saying this stuff in parliament.
 
Paul Flynn ‏@Paulflynnmp

No need for new evidence. Publishing the past testimonies suppressed by powerful people will provide abudant evidence of North Wales abuse,
 
People with better political memories than me, does this feel like a tipping point? A tsunami of filth that could engulf the Establishment? Or will it just go away and back to business as usual? Am struggling to think of anything in the past that was quite so toxic and extreme as this...this story has run for over a month now and seems to be still just beginning...
 
Already done but not sure we had connected him with north wales. If that connection is solid we have real trouble.

He had been connected before, both in the distant past and in the last week or so. It's one of the reasons I bothered to spend so much time on this stuff recently.
 
People with better political memories than me, does this feel like a tipping point? A tsunami of filth that could engulf the Establishment? Or will it just go away and back to business as usual? Am struggling to think of anything in the past that was quite so toxic and extreme as this...this story has run for over a month now and seems to be still just beginning...

It's got immense potential, somewhat limited by a likely lack of direct evidence, and that a lot of the current tories are not from the Thatcher era.

One of the biggest problems they've got is that they are damned either way, in some ways it might be better for them if someone can be found guilty otherwise people will just assume its another coverup.

Whatever happens its only going to accelerate peoples distrust of the establishment and its minions.
 
Great, someone who actually read the Jillings report and yet manages to add nothing to the debate, other than say this isnt about tories. (Karen Lumley MP on C4 news)
 
elbows said:
TV news has been very soft on William Hague so far, that didnt really change tonight.

Agreed , there were monents in c4 discussion that led directly into his setting up of review but they just didn't go down that road

Re earlier Crick text, I felt o'brien may not have been convinced by all of messham's answers. Anyone else get that or am I just reading him wrong? Discussion between them possibly where crick's text came from?
 
Re earlier Crick text, I felt o'brien may not have been convinced by all of messham's answers. Anyone else get that or am I just reading him wrong? Discussion between them possibly where crick's text came from?

Thats going to be a problem with Messham just as it has been in the past. But they are still willing to air interviews with him so they arent writing him off completely.

There are numerous possibilities when it comes to Cricks scepticism. It could be any number of details, but bearing in mind that Crick is a political journalist I would not be surprised if at least some of his doubts are based on talking to a range of political contacts.
 
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