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Which is why Boris trying to inflame things with war rhetoric and decision making without parliamentary debate should worry you.
Looks like you've replied to someone else but quoted me. Or misunderstood my post.
Which is why Boris trying to inflame things with war rhetoric and decision making without parliamentary debate should worry you.
or bothLooks like you've replied to someone else but quoted me. Or misunderstood my post.
Looks like you've replied to someone else but quoted me. Or misunderstood my post.
The British Empire was Dangerous.
The US and allies invading Iraq and Afghanistan and then leaving the Afghan people in the lurch ...was / is dangerous.
Putin holding manoevres inside his own border is not, at the moment, dangerous to Europe. That's not to say he is not a very dangerous leader and its not excusing him for Crimea etc. But until he actually invades ...he isnt invading... and people like Boris claiming "he will invade tomorrow" ..(2 weeks ago)
Is ramping up the situation
Boris sending troops to Poland.
Biden sending 5000 troops.
Its a gane of chess. Putin is not going to cause a war. His main purpose in this relates to NATO expanding to eastern europe.
Irrelevant to the discussion about Ukraine.
I don't know why you are so hung-up on Johnson, he's an irrelevant twat, nothing he says or does will change whatever Putin decides to do.
Again, I have no idea why you are so hung-up on this, it's a drop in the ocean compared to the almost 200k troops that Putin has in place for a potential invasion, which you don't seem to think is an issue.
We know that, but it's not up to him if Ukraine finally joins NATO, they are an independent democratic country and Putin has no right to be making demands on them, it's none of his bloody business what they decide to do, unless that involves invading Russia, which clearly wouldn't happen.
A promise was made to Russia in 1990 ..after Germany reunited...
James Baker promised Gorbachev through his interpreter, Pavel Palazhchenko, that if US troops remained in Germany after reunification, Nato would not expand “an inch to the east”.
Promises to Moscow after Cold War come back to haunt western powers
It was February 1990 when Mikhail Gorbachev and the US secretary of state met for talks on Germany’s future. During hours of discussion in Moscow James Bakewww.thetimes.co.uk
However, Palazhchenko, says that Baker’s comment was related exclusively to Nato expansion into the territory of East Germany, rather than countries in central or eastern Europe.
“Baker said that [a united Germany] should become a member of Nato, but that Nato infrastructure should not move and extend to the territory of the GDR,” Palazhchenko said. “But certainly no promise was made as regards Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, etc. Such a promise could not be made because no one, including the leaders of those countries, raised the possibility of them becoming members of Nato.
“I was there, I recorded that conversation. That is what was discussed. Of course, people for their own political purposes take that particular phrase out of context and they make their political points. But so far as I’m concerned that concerned only the territory of the GDR.”
NATO’s secretary general also stated it in a speech on May 17 that same year in Brussels.Now look at the full comment from Palazhchenko in that article...
Liberals talking up war?So what is it when Biden does the same?
He's actually been far more vocal than BJ.
And can you define "talking up war"? I genuinely want to know what you mean by it.
the americans spend billions of dollars on their intelligence agencies who should have foreseen the collapse of the soviet union. there were many hundreds if not thousands of people whose entire career was devoted to ferreting out information from the ussr, you'd have thought one or two of them would have been able to identify the warning signs that the machine would stop.The thing is ...at the time nobody could have foreseen the collapse of the USSR.
the americans spend billions of dollars on their intelligence agencies who should have foreseen the collapse of the soviet union. there were many hundreds if not thousands of people whose entire career was devoted to ferreting out information from the ussr, you'd have thought one or two of them would have been able to identify the warning signs that the machine would stop.
not as good as they think they are.
I reckon the Soviet Union could have carried on for a good while longer, merely through inertia. A lot was down to the personalities of Gorbachev and Yeltsin. The end of Communism also need not have meant the end of the Russian empire, certainly not in the way it actually happened with the Soviet Union splintering into its supposed parts. I'm not sure anyone saw that coming until it actually did.the americans spend billions of dollars on their intelligence agencies who should have foreseen the collapse of the soviet union. there were many hundreds if not thousands of people whose entire career was devoted to ferreting out information from the ussr, you'd have thought one or two of them would have been able to identify the warning signs that the machine would stop.
Vladimir Putin 'considering' recognising independence of separatist regions
Vladimir Putin, who is chairing an ad-hoc meeting of Russia's Security Council, says the Ukrainian government has made it clear with its actions that it is not going to comply with the Minsk peace agreement.
He asked Russia's foreign minister and then an envoy to the peace talks with Ukraine to present their reports before he would react to an appeal from the separatists to recognise the independence of their states.
"Our goal is to listen to our colleagues and determine our next steps in this direction, bearing in mind both the appeals of the leaders of the DNR (Donetsk People's Republic) and LNR (Lugansk People's Republic) to recognise their independence," Mr Putin said while opening a televised security council meeting.
Mr Putin told the ad-hoc session of Russia's Security Council that the Ukrainian government conducted two majority military operations against the separatists in the Donbas and said it appears there might be another attack.
"As far as I can see we're witnessing an escalation for the third time," he said.
Do you believe him?
so the germans are a bunch of junkies
It would be a fabulous result if people just stopped killing other people.
Thread on the Russian Security Council meeting.
Yes, fair enough.
Here's a thread from a Guardian reporter on the Security Council meeting:
yes, once again the correct answer is 'a plague on both your houses'I'm unable to follow this stuff in much detail as I don't have the time/energy, but having spotted a lot of arguing on twitter over what the correct left wing position is, I'm struck by how few people are able to think that maybe neither side are the good guys.
Also known as...yes, once again the correct answer is 'a plague on both your houses'