Hillsborough Independent Panel findings and release of documents.

[Fedayn]

Here's a link to 'live updates' on the Grauniad website

Families of the 96 started viewing the documents at 8am

Cameron speaking to the Commons at 12:30pm.

Here's hoping.......


JFT96

 

[purenarcotic]

Cheers, Fed.

 

[Favelado]

This should turn out to be a landmark day. Let's hope we're not left disappointed. #whereskelvin is doing the rounds on Twitter.

Justice for the 96.

 

[elbows]

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@TonyEvansTimes​

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First news trickling out and it's ugly. Blood taken from bodies to test for alcohol. If none, they checked for criminal records.​

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[tommers]

I think this might finally be it.

 

[Balbi]

That first bit of news could be the tip of a fucking stinking berg.

 

[Teaboy]

That first bit of news could be the tip of a fucking stinking berg.

I think its going to be horrific, possibly worse than I had previously imagined.

 

[Balbi]

Tony Evans is tweeting info that makes SYP sound like the cops from David Peace's Red Riding books.

 

[Favelado]

The news that the families stood up and applauded the panel at the end of the hearing suggests that real disclosure of the cover-up is coming out.

 

[Fedayn]

Tony Evans is tweeting info that makes SYP sound like the cops from David Peace's Red Riding books.

Balbi, can you c&p his tweets, Twitter is blocked at work.

 

[butchersapron]

The news that the families stood up and applauded the panel at the end of the hearing suggests that real disclosure of the cover-up is coming out.

Some of them did - those associated with the Hillsborough Justice Campaign are far more sceptical...

 

[cesare]

Also, keep refreshing the live feed link that Fed posted originally, it keeps updating.

 

[treelover]

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First news trickling out and it's ugly. Blood taken from bodies to test for alcohol. If none, they checked for criminal records.

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no words really...

 

[Balbi]

Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes
The coroner questioned the need for inquests! That's illegal

Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes
And they tried to use the inquests to undermine Taylor Report.

Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes
The HIP will be quite clear. This was a deliberate strategy of lying. There was no basis of truth


Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes
I'd expect to hear what we already knew. Irving Patnick, the MP, was used by police to leak lies to MacKenzie.


Jim Boardman ‏@JimBoardman
#HIP The report is understood to highlight a concerted attempt by South Yorkshire Police to revert the findings of Taylor at the inquests.
Retweeted by Tony Evans

Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes
And it looks like HIP will confirm what we knew: more could have been saved. We knew it, but it still hurts to hear it

Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes
SYP were criminalising victims before the bodies were even cold

Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes
First news trickling out and it's ugly. Blood taken from bodies to test for alcohol. If none, they checked for criminal records.

 

[Favelado]

Some of them did - those associated with the Hillsborough Justice Campaign are far more sceptical...

Any more details on that? That's interesting.

 

[Wilf]

Just hope every lying cunt who covered it all up and put the familes through it all these years is feeling like history is about to catch up with them.

 

[Fedayn]

Cheers balbi.

From teh Graun website

A home office spokesman has said its "massive" what's about to come out.

 

[treelover]

McKenzie should watch his back after this, literally...

 

[cesare]

McKenzie should watch his back after this, literally...

I hope he doesn't

 

[butchersapron]

Any more details on that? That's interesting.

Well, the HJC thought the panel basically was manipulated and represented a particular section of the families interests alone, sidelining other critical voices in the process. There's a sort of summary by (the fantastic) Sheila Colman here (and she's on twitter as @SheilaColeman96). Interesting to see what effect today will have on their views.

edit: god knows why it's insisting on putting two errant quote tags in this post, but it is.

 

[Teaboy]

Just hope every lying cunt who covered it all up and put the familes through it all these years is feeling like history is about to catch up with them.

God I hope so, but I fear the the usual

'Mistakes were made, we're all very sorry, its all such a long time ago, those involved have all retired or moved on - the important thing is we have apologised now etc etc etc'

I hope I am wrong.

 

[treelover]

Well, the HJC thought the panel basically was manipulated and represented a particular section of the families interests alone, sidelining other critical voices in the process. There's a sort of summary by (the fantastic) Sheila Colman here (and she's on twitter as @SheilaColeman96). Interesting to see what effect today will have on their views.

The tensions between the different 'factions'(for want of a better word) of the HFSG have been ongoing since the tragedy occurred..

 

[weepiper]

Follow​

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Tony Evans‏@TonyEvansTimes​

Ancient history? Norman Bettison, chief constable of SY and head of MSide police then appears to have been at meetings to discuss strategy

 

[weepiper]

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Tony Evans‏@TonyEvansTimes​

That strategy was to blame fans. To serve and protect, eh?

 

[tommers]

What's the history there? Cos to my unknowledgeable eye it smacks a bit of the Popular People's front of Judea. It'd be nice if the families could be united, at least.

 

[treelover]

Has Johnson said something derogatory about Hillsborough today or is it old news?, stuff on twitter...

 

[Favelado]

What's the history there? Cos to my unknowledgeable eye it smacks a bit of the Popular People's front of Judea. It'd be nice if the families could be united, at least.

An outline.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=293382.0

 

[butchersapron]

What's the history there? Cos to my unknowledgeable eye it smacks a bit of the Popular People's front of Judea. It'd be nice if the families could be united, at least.

Not sure if this is the right thread for this stuff (not right now anyway) but here's a link to something i wrote about how one side see this a few years back.

 

[Teaboy]

Does anyone think Cameron is going to mention the tory government's (and presumably the sainted Maggie) roll in all this when he speaks at 12.30?

 

[el-ahrairah]

let's hope we see some justice happen now.