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friendofdorothy said:
I think you are confusing Herne Hill with Brixton. Yes I'm against losing all our established businesses, and its well known that Dulwich Estates have been a pain in the area forever. But having a new cocktail bar won't make my local area worse.
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It's often the start of a familiar and well recognised process that has been happening all over London, but if you think it'll be different in Herne Hill, then I hope you're right.
 
Considering HH as an area has had at least 4 cocktail bars in the last 10-15 years, I'll take your point a moot one and move on.

Londonist are also picking up on the Just William story (a rapacious chain of capitalist shops exploiting the childhoods of children for some):

"We Are Being Punished For Making Our Area Better" - Public School Forces Toyshop To Close

There's an interesting line here:

"When we moved in, most of this parade was empty. Their [DE] party line is they have an obligation to get the most money for their charity as they can, and will take nothing else into consideration even though the flood and empty pub has had an effect on all of us. "

Which seems to imply that the DE Trustees haven't heeded some of the recommendations in charity law covered by the public repercussions of charities (e.g. Church of England and Comic Relief) holding shares in companies whose business activities appear to be in conflict with the charities aims. It's covered in CC14 for those with an interest.
 
snowy_again said:
Considering HH as an area has had at least 4 cocktail bars in the last 10-15 years, I'll take your point a moot one and move on.

Londonist are also picking up on the Just William story (a rapacious chain of capitalist shops exploiting the childhoods of children for some):

"We Are Being Punished For Making Our Area Better" - Public School Forces Toyshop To Close

There's an interesting line here:

"When we moved in, most of this parade was empty. Their [DE] party line is they have an obligation to get the most money for their charity as they can, and will take nothing else into consideration even though the flood and empty pub has had an effect on all of us. "

Which seems to imply that the DE Trustees haven't heeded some of the recommendations in charity law covered by the public repercussions of charities (e.g. Church of England and Comic Relief) holding shares in companies whose business activities appear to be in conflict with the charities aims. It's covered in CC14 for those with an interest.
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too true.

The Just William shop was part of the general move toward shops catering for children and families. Everything a middle class family could want - private schools, dance studio, sports gear, childrens' books and toys. Dulwich Estates is foolish to price them out and alter the nature of the area that actually supports their schools.

Note: I don't give for damn about private schools and I'm not that keen on children in general either - but I'd rather live in an area that is lively with shops doing business and employing people, than in an area boarded up and dead.
 
This week's Time Out: move to Herne Hill. The lowdown: strong sense of community and independent shops.

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I have registered a domain name and we can use it to take on these bastards at Dulwich Estate. Need people who are willing to help me blog for it and blast out the social media. My ultimate (but maybe futile aim) is to have their charitable status removed but in the meantime I want the blog to make life as shit for them as possible.

If you are interested in helping out please let me know
 
snowy_again said:
Considering HH as an area has had at least 4 cocktail bars in the last 10-15 years, I'll take your point a moot one and move on.

Londonist are also picking up on the Just William story (a rapacious chain of capitalist shops exploiting the childhoods of children for some):

"We Are Being Punished For Making Our Area Better" - Public School Forces Toyshop To Close

There's an interesting line here:

"When we moved in, most of this parade was empty. Their [DE] party line is they have an obligation to get the most money for their charity as they can, and will take nothing else into consideration even though the flood and empty pub has had an effect on all of us. "

Which seems to imply that the DE Trustees haven't heeded some of the recommendations in charity law covered by the public repercussions of charities (e.g. Church of England and Comic Relief) holding shares in companies whose business activities appear to be in conflict with the charities aims. It's covered in CC14 for those with an interest.
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Do you fancy penning a piece on the charity status aspect? (though I do need to speak with Giles first)

This is step too far for me. I used to take my ex's little lad there when I was looking after him and it is a lovely shop and the staff were ace.
 
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snowy_again said:
Considering HH as an area has had at least 4 cocktail bars in the last 10-15 years, I'll take your point a moot one and move on.

Londonist are also picking up on the Just William story (a rapacious chain of capitalist shops exploiting the childhoods of children for some):

"We Are Being Punished For Making Our Area Better" - Public School Forces Toyshop To Close

There's an interesting line here:

"When we moved in, most of this parade was empty. Their [DE] party line is they have an obligation to get the most money for their charity as they can, and will take nothing else into consideration even though the flood and empty pub has had an effect on all of us. "

Which seems to imply that the DE Trustees haven't heeded some of the recommendations in charity law covered by the public repercussions of charities (e.g. Church of England and Comic Relief) holding shares in companies whose business activities appear to be in conflict with the charities aims. It's covered in CC14 for those with an interest.
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It all sounds horribly familiar:
“It’s almost like we are punished for making our area better, and that isn’t a virtuous circle,” says Gibson, acknowledging his role may move from promoting local businesses to firefighting major institutions. “When we pedestrianised the station area, the shops said their rents would go up — and they were right. I remember a public meeting and I was doing the annual report. Somebody said, 'it’s wonderful what you’ve done but the only problem is I can’t afford to live here anymore'.

"You can’t buy the community we have here, you have to build it up slowly and carefully. Now that’s under severe threat. It’s a London-wide issue, we are not alone. Landlords are going 'ker-ching' all over the city, without having done anything to earn it. It’s affecting the economy and sustainability of neighbourhoods.”
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This is the crux of the problem. Why should traders and residents make their community better if a landlord — in this case a charity representing some posh schools, but it could be Network Rail, a business in Surrey or an MP — can simply raise their rents by 70% and destroy all that hard work at a stroke? This is the Big Society that ate itself.
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"Education" is one of the 4 heads of charity. That won't change, and it won't be tweaked quickly. Henry VIII set 'em up. Charity Law is a relatively slow moving thing. It took a few hundred years for the last amendment of the 'heads of charity'.

The proposed 'Public Benefit Test' may influence how their facilities need to be shared amongst the wider community.
 
Ye Olde Bakery has reopened on the other side of the railway line. Rebranded as Artisan Bakery...

ETA Bel-Ore Artisan bakehouse to be precise.

The green grocers new arch is looking great. And very busy.

Bleu is staying on after the redevelopment. And expanding into 3 units, apparently.
 
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Rushy said:
Ye Olde Bakery has reopened on the other side of the railway line. Rebranded as Artisan Bakery...

ETA Bel-Ore Artisan bakehouse to be precise.

The green grocers new arch is looking great. And very busy.

Bleu is staying on after the redevelopment. And expanding into 3 units, apparently.
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Fruit Garden - the greengrocers - has been renamed 'Seasons of England'
 
With these renamings it sounds like the independent local businesses have decided to fully embrace gentrification. I trust they will recieve vilification equal to that which a new business with the same name would recieve.
 
Rushy said:
Five tomatoes, a large lettuce and a modest bunch of spring onions = £4.80. Seems a bit pricey.
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that would be £2.50 ish in Noors in Brixton market.

brixtonblade said:
Yeah they're not cheap
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No not cheap but they do stock a really wide range of some unusual stuff eg lots of types of exotic mushrooms. And its good and fresh.
I can't afford to shop there, but I suppose if you can afford the fancy butchers or the sunday market then you can afford the fancy veg to go with it.
 
299 old timer said:
Sunday farmer's market - stall at the end:
6 toms - £1.50
Large Lettuce - £1
Spring Onions - £1ish

All fresh from the farm
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Herne Hill? I did look there but there was a big queue and I couldn't see any lettuce. Next time! I love that they sell sprouts on the the stem.
 
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