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All this talk of wanting a reasonably priced grocers makes me wonder if anyone else familiar with the HH grocers that google maps tells me is called Andreas Haralambous at the bottom of Rosendale Road? Great selection of fruit'n'veg and for my money the best bananas I've found around (they knock those crappy green things you get in the supermarkets into a cocked hat). Easy to spot; the shop itself is tiny but they have a huge awning covering the grocery out front.
 
All this talk of wanting a reasonably priced grocers makes me wonder if anyone else familiar with the HH grocers that google maps tells me is called Andreas Haralambous at the bottom of Rosendale Road? Great selection of fruit'n'veg and for my money the best bananas I've found around (they knock those crappy green things you get in the supermarkets into a cocked hat). Easy to spot; the shop itself is tiny but they have a huge awning covering the grocery out front.

Yes - I used to use them lots because my kids were at the nursery up the road. Handy little shop that one.

I only really go to the pricey one in HH if I need something random for a recipe that your average supermarket doesn't have. They do keep quite a lot of more exotic bits and bobs in there. I don't buy fruit/veg there (or very rarely) because it really is very pricey.

I also have a great place nearby (in Tulse Hill) that does the cheapo £1 bowls. Those bowls can be hit and miss because they're often on the verge of turning, but nothing lasts long in this household anyway, so it tends to get used immediately. Also they're handy for massive bunches of coriander/parsley etc.
 
Herne Hill? I did look there but there was a big queue and I couldn't see any lettuce. Next time! I love that they sell sprouts on the the stem.

The lettuce is usually on the display with the spinach. Didn't need on this week so didn't notice. I guess the big queues mean they are doing something right.
 
All this talk of wanting a reasonably priced grocers makes me wonder if anyone else familiar with the HH grocers that google maps tells me is called Andreas Haralambous at the bottom of Rosendale Road? Great selection of fruit'n'veg and for my money the best bananas I've found around (they knock those crappy green things you get in the supermarkets into a cocked hat). Easy to spot; the shop itself is tiny but they have a huge awning covering the grocery out front.

He always has chicory, which is a bonus :)
 
Herne Hill? I did look there but there was a big queue and I couldn't see any lettuce. Next time! I love that they sell sprouts on the the stem.
probably best value stall at the sunday market (i know, not saying much ...)
and godmersham game also decent value for proper free range meat (depending what you buy)

are prices in the bakery still olde ones or are they now at artisanal levels?
 
All this talk of wanting a reasonably priced grocers makes me wonder if anyone else familiar with the HH grocers that google maps tells me is called Andreas Haralambous at the bottom of Rosendale Road? Great selection of fruit'n'veg and for my money the best bananas I've found around (they knock those crappy green things you get in the supermarkets into a cocked hat). Easy to spot; the shop itself is tiny but they have a huge awning covering the grocery out front.
Loved that place. My mate used to live in a flat just up the road so I'd buy my weekly f and v when I went to visit. Glad it's still there, for now.
 
probably best value stall at the sunday market (i know, not saying much ...)
and godmersham game also decent value for proper free range meat (depending what you buy)

are prices in the bakery still olde ones or are they now at artisanal levels?
I have not been in. I don't eat a huge amount of bread so when I do I tend to use black bird.

Ye Olde was a decent enough bakery but more Gregg's than artisanal.

Best value stall for me is the Rainforest Roti. £5 and I'm stuffed. Brilliant for hangovers too!
 
got an email from HH forum with more details of Weds meeting and Sats march:
When it's gone it's gone

It's our Neighbourhood - let's plan it's future
This is a reminder that on Wednesday 27th January, 7.00 p.m, at the Herne Hill Baptist Church Hall (Half Moon Lane and Winterbrook Road) it is the first of our Neighbourhood Plan events. This is where we start to create our plan and vision for how we want to see Herne Hill develop over the coming years.

This Wednesday we will be focusing on housing developments and the local economy - shops and businesses. Given the ongoing issues around our local traders and how the town centre may develop it is really important to enshrine our views and strategy into the Neighbourhood Plan.

What is it we want to change locally? What is it we cherish and want to retain?

It will be a "hands-on" evening, we will provide some food and as much good gossip as you need. All we need is you, your ideas and enthusiasm.

It will also be a very short EGM to discuss and vote on changes to our constitution.

Full details of the meeting are here.


Save our Shops and live music at our Pub - the Children and Live Music March!
As you may know there is a great deal changing in the heart of Herne Hill. Network Rail have moved many of the traders out of their premises in Station Square, some have gone for good, others temporarily located in Milkwood Road but can only return if they pay far higher rents.

Just Williams our only local childrens toy shop in Half Moon Lane has gone, they could not afford the near 70% rent hike that local landlord Dulwich Estates imposed.

We have now heard that Dulwich Estates have leased the Half Moon Pub to Fullers and will not be restoring it as a live music venue at all.

Local residents are incensed at the way a few local landlords are tearing apart our neighbourhood by cashing in on other people's efforts. Did they contribute in any way to the improvements to the area? A petition has been running to get Dulwich Estates to re-think their policy, just a click or two and you can add to it here.

There has been a march organised for this Saturday 30th, meet outside the station at 3.30 p.m. The press will be there so let's make an impact!

It's a Childrens march to save our Toy Shop

It is a live music lovers march to save our music venue

It is a Neighbourhood march to save our independent shops and traders


Bring yourself, your family and friends and make a noise about what we cherish and want to retain.

More about the background issues to the changes to the neighbourhood are here, background to the issues behind the march here.

When they are gone they are gone!
 
Best value stall for me is the Rainforest Roti. £5 and I'm stuffed. Brilliant for hangovers too!

I bloody love those. I've never bought anything else at that Sunday market - sometimes the kids get crepes if we're in the park - but I go out of my way to get one of those Rainforest Rotis. They have to be eaten sitting down though - they're super juicyexplodey.
 
I bloody love those. I've never bought anything else at that Sunday market - sometimes the kids get crepes if we're in the park - but I go out of my way to get one of those Rainforest Rotis. They have to be eaten sitting down though - they're super juicyexplodey.
So good. I want one right now, damn it!
 
is there a danger that if objections to Fullers are sustained it will cease to be a pub at all?
 
is there a danger that if objections to Fullers are sustained it will cease to be a pub at all?
I'd like to think that if the campaign continues to gather steam it will make it apparent to the brewery (or other interested parties) that there is a real need for the pub to continue to include a live music venue.
 
I like live music alot, but is there really 'a need' for there to be a live music venue in Herne Hill?

What constitutes 'a need'?

I'm struggling to come up with an answer, as much as I struggle with the need for a toy shop or a sports shop or a fancy deli.

I'm not saying they shouldnt be there, or not great to have, but I'm finding it hard to justify why they are essential or necessary.
 
I like live music alot, but is there really 'a need' for there to be a live music venue in Herne Hill?

What constitutes 'a need'?

I'm struggling to come up with an answer, as much as I struggle with the need for a toy shop or a sports shop or a fancy deli.

I'm not saying they shouldnt be there, or not great to have, but I'm finding it hard to justify why they are essential or necessary.
Maybe 'need' is too strong a word for it - but it would a shame to loose such a long established and well loved music venue. I saw bands there in the '80s before I lived in the area and my girlf remembers travelling from Brum to see a band there, perhaps we didn't need too - but it was fun. Recent managers really haven't bothered with it much and it hasn't fulfilled its potential for music for years now. I'm struggling to think of any similar music pubs in Southwark - how many are there? Perhaps there is a 'need' for live music venues in Southwark.

Perhaps we don't 'need' one in Herne Hill, but we certainly don't need yet another restaurant. In terms of heritage music music is a major export for Britain - where are the musicians of tomorrow to start out and develop if we lose all these small venues? There seem to be fewer and fewer places for live music all over London, they are closing everywhere. I don't want to lose them all, so I'd like to keep my local, the Half Moon, as a place for live music.

Need for toy shop etc? well I say we need local shops and we need jobs.
 
You beat me to it.

Off the Cuff is probably a better size venue for new bands plus there is the Veg bar on Tulse Hill that is also a space for new bands. So when it comes to there being new music venues in the area more seem to be appearing.
Are you sure it is bigger? didn't look that big to me, but I could be wrong. Are they still having noise complaint problems?
Both those venues are in Lambeth, so would that have any effect Southwark planning permission for the 'Moon'?

Haven't heard much about the Veg bar - I thought that was a vegan cafe? tell me more.
 
Are you sure it is bigger? didn't look that big to me, but I could be wrong. Are they still having noise complaint problems?
Both those venues are in Lambeth, so would that have any effect Southwark planning permission for the 'Moon'?

Haven't heard much about the Veg bar - I thought that was a vegan cafe? tell me more.
Punk in the basement.
 
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