sleaterkinney
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To stir, by the looks of things.
Hadley's reveal new stadium design
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In reference to James Barber's comments - he is now an expert on football stadia as he understands the club's needs. If that was the case he would know the current ground has more than a few issues in being "fit for purpose". And perhaps we could change the record just a little by being a little less economical with the facts about the MOL being built on - it's just the strip between the wall of the ground and the all weather pitch. The all weather pitch area is already built on or don't those rather tall floodlight pylons count?
The headline in the Dulwich & Herne Hill edition of the Southwark News yesterday, on their front page, ran:
DISALLOWED
Council rejects developers' attempt to alter protections on Hamlet ground.
I haven't got time to type up the whole thing, but it continues on page ten, and the barbed Barber 'comments' were as follows:
East Dulwich ward Liberal Democrat councillor, James Barber, said: "While I am please that this application has been refused, it shows the need to watch the property company like hawks. Ditching the Section 106 commitments to the community would mean housing can be built on the current football ground site. The proposed replacement ground isn't fit-for-purpose and will build on Metropolitan Open Land. With an ever-increasing population the council must hold the line and keep all our existing open space. In 1982 the Labour council sold out and a Sainsbury's superstore was built on Champion Hill playing fields. I now fear they could do the same again and agree to new housing on the current Dulwich Hamlet FC home and build a new football ground on existing open space. Where will it all end?"
Christian Burt
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In 1982 eh! Deary me.
dcdulwich
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Human Man
BrandNewGuy
Why don't you change the record. In fact, pop the record into it's sleeve, jump up and down on it, and take it to your next 'Friends of' meeting to distribute amongst the attendees.
Would be great if some of your meetings were actually publicised. Perhaps I could come a long and spread some misinformation to you lot?
Why don't you change the record. In fact, pop the record into it's sleeve, jump up and down on it, and take it to your next 'Friends of' meeting to distribute amongst the attendees.
Would be great if some of your meetings were actually publicised. Perhaps I could come a long and spread some misinformation to you lot?
BrandNewGuy
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For what it's worth, I've never spoken to or corresponded with Cllr Barber about Meadow's/HPG's plans. It's extraordinary that at a time when your club's future is uncertain, you seem happy to spend your time in a playground spat. Have DHST released their statement on recent developments? Or the club? Or "Support Our Stadium"?
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Human Man
Yes, thats all thats being done, just spending our time on here talking to you...
So when are the next 'Friends of' meetings? Many fans have tried to find out, yet no one has had any luck.
And there we have it. Don't fein interest in what we're doing, your intentions are very clear, and have nothing to do with the future of this football club.
Lucy Fur
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And that BrandNewGuy is you well and trully rumbled.
Of you fuck now.
Of you fuck now.
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Human Man
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Human Man
Some digging on the East Dulwich Forum shows BrandNewGuy as quite active in reporting whats said here over there. With a FOGD slant. I'd be interested to know if he has ever come to a game. Or spoken to any of us in real life.
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The Club have no need to issue a statement because the Club are still in support of the proposed development, which is an on-going process.
Paula_G
Flitting in & out like Tinkerbell on Meth
Given Southwark's stated aim to provide 11000 low cost homes in the borough in the coming years maybe a JV involving the council, the club, developers / housing associations to get the best for all could be something to look at should things not go to plan with the current proposals?
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willie local
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There's a development on the planning application. Looks like Meadows are pushing for a quick decision.
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Human Man
They're trying to push it to appeal, thats obvious.
What's also obvious is that you and BrandNewGuy (wouldn't be surprised if it was the same fella, to be fair) don't give a shit about the football club. So kindly, jog on.
willie local
New Member
Seeing as this is a direct question...
Where are you getting your ‘facts’ from Liam? You’re on record in the newspaper saying it’s only ten meters more than the astro-turf but is that figure taken from a measured drawing of the proposed stadium or did you just pluck it out of thin air? Also, no it isn’t only the strip down the edge of the pitches but a big slice out the Northern bank. Lastly, where did you get the fact the pitches are previously developed and so fair game to build on? It was a line used by the Hadley lawyer originally but one they dropped. Are you suggesting all football pitches with flood lighting are fair game for developers, regardless if they are park, greenbelt or MOL?
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Human Man
When are the next 'friends of' meetings willie local ? I've asked a few times now. No response.
willie local
New Member
What it seems to me is you feel anyone who doesn't agree with you, can't possibly want to see the club survive. Is this a discussion forum only for people who share the same opinion? There are 2000 plus fans turning up to games and those I talk to don't all agree with your hard line approach. Quite a lot don't know or care anything about the current situation strangely. As for turning up to a friends meeting, I'm sure you'd be welcome. You'd need to ask someone more involved than me as to when it is though. Can't imagine why you'd want to go.
willie local
New Member
Just another reminder. Both of these friends groups you're demonising have clearly stated on the record they support the football club. I just looked and it's the third line on the FOGD website homepage. They just oppose the MOL land grab which is obvious really. Anyone see sir David, standing on top of the shard pleading for the important green spaces left in our cities?
The alt-rabble.
Lucy Fur
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If you genuinely supported the club, then you and FOGD would recognise the club is over a barrel. the future of the club depends on the application going through. the irony is that you also stand to benefit in that the bulk of the area would be improved for your interests. you are no supporter of the club, you are a judas cunt who would cut of their face to spite their nose. that is how fucked your logic is.
crocustim
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This is a smidgen of land in the grand scheme of things and the level of "development" at present and proposed is not all that you portray. The suggestion is to make better use of what we have on all fronts. Housing, Stadium, Greendale. Its a squeeze I grant you that, but that's the world we live in. Especially if we want to build near transport links and walkable amenities etc. Sustainability klaxon.
But the area isn't game for developers it's being turned from an astroturf pitch with no buildings into an astroturf pitch with buildings. I am stating that the area is developed in that it has 8 large floodlight pylons (which will be replaced with 4 that are less light polluting. Effectively 10 pylons becomes 4 and more modern design would mean less light pollution across the whole site and beyond. Anyway, we are not going to agree and as for being economical with "facts" why to FOGD and the like keep intimating that the whole of Greendale is being built on through the photos they use?
The arguments in favour of the new ground are ALL in this thread is people choose to read through it. I, for one, only have limited internet time to waste arguing the toss with 'professional agitators' by people against it, who-in my view-also pretend to be supportive of our Club.
I am more than happy if they approach me at any home game to chat about why I support it, other than that I will only really respond on here to Dulwich Hamlet fans who I know, and not waht I believe to be shit-stirrers.
And, yes, I do realise that a small number of our fans might be a bit sceptical about the development, but the vast majority I speak to are broadly in favour of it, despite any 'political-ethical misgivings' on some of the issues involved.
I am more than happy if they approach me at any home game to chat about why I support it, other than that I will only really respond on here to Dulwich Hamlet fans who I know, and not waht I believe to be shit-stirrers.
And, yes, I do realise that a small number of our fans might be a bit sceptical about the development, but the vast majority I speak to are broadly in favour of it, despite any 'political-ethical misgivings' on some of the issues involved.
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Human Man
For the record, I don't support the plans as they stand, what I also don't support is you coming on here spouting utter bollocks, that you insist on churning up every few weeks. You are a member of one of the friends groups, so you could give me a date and a contact. The member one of the friends sent down to the commercial and community sub committee meeting a few backs was certainly not a supporter of the football club, and openly admitted 'he didn't know anything about football' and had never been to a game, so thats your 'we all care for the football club' line right out the fucking window.
There is a clear and concerted effort on behalf of a group of individuals that frankly don't give a shit about the club to undermine the process. And it may be for some sound reasons, but the way they're going about it makes me think they're not particularly pleasant people. So frankly, they can fuck right off.
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Human Man
Funny, didn't see that advertised anywhere in the local community. Great outreach guys.
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