Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
Anarchist guy because he does Anarchist things.
Growing an Anarchist Movement
- Thread starter Shevek
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Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
Yeh. They want to keep it clandestine in case they get found out by the Okhrana.
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
That's the spirit.
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
Are you high?
The search facility is great. You can like search for specific words and stuff.
ymu
Niall Ferguson's deep-cover sock-puppet
They're intimidated by the astounding depth of your thought processes and the huge amount of time you've obviously spent researching this topic. Urban has never had a thread of this kind, ever.
Lemon Eddy
Disliked by dwyer
What debate are you looking for? Perhaps if you framed a more meaningful question or argument, you might get more relevant responses.
Not from me mind, as frankly I view anarchism as teenage sentiment masquerading as political belief.
david dissadent
New Member
British people are cynical bastards. Starting something by telling brits how much better it will make the world will get you laughed at. Starting something that points out how shit everything else is will get you laughs.
And really dont use the @. It means 'at'.
And really dont use the @. It means 'at'.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
It's not so much that it's been done before that's brought most of these responses shevek, it's because the OP looks like a variant on:
It shows that you don't really get it yet. Lifestyle anarchism is an insult rather than a 'recognised' branch of anarchism like anarchist-communism or anarcho-syndicalism - both of which include already and are concerned with life outside of work anyway, which is what i guess you were trying to get at. Serious question, have you left the lib-dems yet? You need to do that before you're going to get any further in all honesty. I wouldn't particularly recommend here or past debates on here as any sort of guide either.
It shows that you don't really get it yet. Lifestyle anarchism is an insult rather than a 'recognised' branch of anarchism like anarchist-communism or anarcho-syndicalism - both of which include already and are concerned with life outside of work anyway, which is what i guess you were trying to get at. Serious question, have you left the lib-dems yet? You need to do that before you're going to get any further in all honesty. I wouldn't particularly recommend here or past debates on here as any sort of guide either.
5t3IIa
Registered User
I don't get why people constantly start threads insisting on 'proper debate' on anarchist themes and being totally confused and pissed off they don't get one but don't actually frame any questions that make sense? q.v. resistanceMP3.
It's like me standing here saying "I want a job. Please write my CV for me and fill in these application forms for me and do the interview for me then I'll turn up at 9am to start"
It's like me standing here saying "I want a job. Please write my CV for me and fill in these application forms for me and do the interview for me then I'll turn up at 9am to start"
Hi Shevek,
Most people on hear are not anarchists, just failed socialists and other cynics. This discussion might be better had by going to one of the many anarchists and anarchist-inspired groups in London. I am a member of the IWW (Industrial Workers of the World) union which has many anarchists involved with it. We have branch meetings every month, so please get in contact if you want to find out more. There is also Freedom Anarchist Bookshop which is open 7 days a week and is in Angel Alley, 84b Whitechapel high Street. Also LARC (62 fieldgate street, E1) has a library open on Wednesdays and Thrusdays and is frequented by the Whitechapel Anarchist Group.
There are also a number of new initiatives that have started up. One was a yearly Anarchist Conference, the first of which happened in June of this year and had around 300 registered participants. The other is a London based initiative which will be launched at the Anarchist Bookfair (Oct 24th, Queen Mary Uni, Mile End) - its called Radical London Network - and is basically a strategy for anarchists to form locally based groups across London. So far the network consists of 6 local groups (Haringey Solidarity Group, Hackney Solidarity Network, Action East End, Whitechapel Anarchists Group, Walthamstow Anarchist Group and Camden Anarchists).
Feel fee to PM for more detais.
Zabo
Well-Known Member
A positive post Raw. Thumbs up.
Shevek. You might want to describe the particular type of anarchism you are interested in. As you may have gathered it is quite a sweeping term/concept. I struggle with the notion that some anarchist groups have an hierarchy and others use the term 'socialist' without ever defining what the word means. If it is socialism in the broadest sense then I fail to see how an ideology, which is about central control, can sleep in the same bed as anarchy.
Shevek. You might want to describe the particular type of anarchism you are interested in. As you may have gathered it is quite a sweeping term/concept. I struggle with the notion that some anarchist groups have an hierarchy and others use the term 'socialist' without ever defining what the word means. If it is socialism in the broadest sense then I fail to see how an ideology, which is about central control, can sleep in the same bed as anarchy.
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
slowly. With a sense of humour. And an understanding that many "socialists", "radicals" and "left-wingers" are the enemy of progress.
That "socialists", "radicals" and "left-wingers" are the enemy, just about sums up the arrogance, elitism, and sectarianism of most anarchists on here.
Thankfully, there are much more sensible anarchists out there.
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
good post.
Why? Do you think that those involved in the various groups mentioned see all socialists, radicals and left wingers as their comrades/allies?
Louis MacNeice
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
Do they, can you point me to any reading about those anarchists groups?
I think the idea that socialism is about central control iyo, is because you struggle with the previous idea, how some anarchist have hirearchy.
In my opinion, from the outside, I think anarchists fetishies hirearchy.
invisibleplanet
porter des cornes
If you want to work voluntarily in the community, then just do it, and be prepared to work with all manner of people, not just ones who subscribe to your political point of view.
Take the work of Liverpudlians as an example - without childcare and communal meeting places, they began community programmes, raised cash, applied for lottery grants, begged donations from local businesses, created community centres, started child-care share schemes, playgroups, pre- and after-school groups, began youth clubs, provided computers and training for adults, held exercise groups and self-help groups, and brought communities together, etc.
Take the work of Liverpudlians as an example - without childcare and communal meeting places, they began community programmes, raised cash, applied for lottery grants, begged donations from local businesses, created community centres, started child-care share schemes, playgroups, pre- and after-school groups, began youth clubs, provided computers and training for adults, held exercise groups and self-help groups, and brought communities together, etc.
invisibleplanet
porter des cornes
Serious aside - have you seen how the Lib Dems have marched towards the Cons on the Political Compass over the last couple of years - they're firming up to position themselves between Cons and Lab, and within the right-authoritarian sphere.
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
it is.
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
A positive post Raw. Thumbs up.
Shevek. You might want to describe the particular type of anarchism you are interested in. As you may have gathered it is quite a sweeping term/concept. I struggle with the notion that some anarchist groups have an hierarchy and others use the term 'socialist' without ever defining what the word means. If it is socialism in the broadest sense then I fail to see how an ideology, which is about central control, can sleep in the same bed as anarchy.
Because socialism isn't about central control.
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