DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
'yanis' rockstar looks'
doesn't look that rock to me. The goddam huff.
doesn't look that rock to me. The goddam huff.
Greek elections
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Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
interesting poll cited in yesterdays Guardian. Asked whether they supported the governments attempts to overturn the bailout conditions, 75% of Greeks said yes - including a majority of new democrat voters. Syriza voters were 96% behind the plans, and ANEL ones 94%. But the party whose voters were even more supportive and approving -Golden Dawn.
Crikey how stupid. Like a whole load of things money is always a political construct. Always has been. Money exists from political structures.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Paper-Promises-Money-World-Order/dp/0718192141
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
It's hardly surprising that voters generally and particularly voters who support radical left or far right parties would support that though is it?
I'm not sure what you mean.
Money is nothing in itself. It does not exist, except as a symbol. What it symbolizes is alienated labor-power.
Why are you going on about "political structures?"
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Is that just money in the form of surplus value/profit or money in the form of wages as well?
Wages above all. Whenever a worker gets a paycheck, his labor-power is represented in symbolic, financial form.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Is he alienated from his own wages?
And how do exchange rates come into this, given that that is at the heart of the Euro crisis?
His wages represent his labor-power in alienated form, if that's what you mean.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Can anyone explain the constant references in both left and mainstream media to Sinn Féin as being an anti-austerity party similar to Syriza and Podemos? Is this claim at all legitimate or just clever marketing by a party which has been complicit in austerity both in the republic and north?
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Which left and mainstream media are you talking about? And in which country? I saw Liberation refer to Fianna Fail as "centre-left" once, so I'm kind of sceptical of non-Irish accounts of Irish politics.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
You may find this of interest:
https://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2015/02/11/a-political-endorsement/#comments
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
It's in basically the same way the Greens are called anti-austerity only instead of hating carbon emissions and the working class, Sinn Fein hate abortion.
ManchesterBeth
Well-Known Member
Uh... Surplus value isn't profit...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Was that the ones who were camped outside treasury?
Patteran
A nowadays excuse
I think so - always a degree of uncertainty matching images to stories with no Greek language skills. Posted on twitter by Unite Hotel Workers.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I think it must be given the 595 matches up - one of the first things Syriza did was remove all restrictions on them camping there.
It's not even surplus to the profiteer.
lefteri
Well-Known Member
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
It is refreshing to see a socialist regime run out of other people's money at the start of their tenure rather than at the end as is more traditional.
Patteran
A nowadays excuse
Yes, thanks for that.
not-bono-ever
meh
so JP Morgan are saying that greek banks will run out of useable cash collateral in 3 months, given current drawdown/ fleeing euro levels
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
JP Morgan, the bankers who helped to fund the Iraq invasion/war.
