Golliwog in the window - should this really be in court?

[existentialist]

Assuming the photograph is from the last few days as opposed to taken during a World Cup or Euros, it's the big England flag on the ceiling that causes the biggest concern, tbh... More so as they also fly it outside the building for good measure.

That was a big red (and white) flag for me, when I saw it.

 

[Spymaster]

Hint - he won't.

It's a strange one isn't it?

If I was just about to lose my my pub/home/livelihood, I'd have been on the next flight home to engage in some serious damage limitation; not sitting by the pool in Turkey.

Of course there's every possibility that the bloke is a massively maladroit bellend as well as a stinky old racist, but I think there's probably more to this.

 

[Joe Chi Min]

Assuming the photograph is from the last few days as opposed to taken during a World Cup or Euros, it's the big England flag on the ceiling that causes the biggest concern, tbh... More so as they also fly it outside the building for good measure.

Looks like it’s made of cloth too. Oftentimes the casual racist might have plastic or whatever the fuck that material is. When they’re made of cloth you know you’re dealing with hardliners

 

[xenon]

All of the quotes and interviews have been from her though, so perhaps she's the primary pugnacious fuckwit in all of this and he's fucked-off and left her to it.

It’s him wearing a T-shirt and all that though isn’t it? The Britain first T-shirt or whatever it was. Anyway they are probably both racist tosses.

 

[NoXion]

That was a big red (and white) flag for me, when I saw it.

What's the deal the crossed hammers? Reminds me of the fascist pastiche from Pink Floyd's The Wall.

 

[andysays]

What's the deal the crossed hammers? Reminds me of the fascist pastiche from Pink Floyd's The Wall.

 

[NoXion]

I see now, not a football person so wasn't familiar.

 

[brogdale]

It looks like a fairly typical local to me. The only oddity is the displaying of three different football regalia: Tottenham, Arsenal and West Ham.

looks like quite a strict dress code

 

[Sweet FA]

What's the deal the crossed hammers? Reminds me of the fascist pastiche from Pink Floyd's The Wall.

West Ham originally an amateur team made up of shipbuilders - TIW on the hammers = Thames Ironworks, (WHU nicknames: Irons/Hammers).

 

[Spymaster]

Wankers basically

 

[T & P]

I’m kind of disappointed there wasn’t a Millwall flag on display as well.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

West Ham originally an amateur team made up of shipbuilders - TIW on the hammers = Thames Ironworks, (WHU nicknames: Irons/Hammers).

The older crew still call them irons, which given their often homophobic nature and what iron is in their own rhyming slang has always seemed a bit odd to me.

 

[Sweet FA]

The older crew still call them irons, which given their often homophobic nature and what iron is in their own rhyming slang has always seemed a bit odd to me.

For a chunk of the 90s, the team were sponsored by pony..

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

For a chunk of the 90s, the team were sponsored by pony..

I believe Everton were sponsored by chang at one point, always thought that was a Curtis Warren thing...

 

[Joe Chi Min]

For a chunk of the 90s, the team were sponsored by pony..

And their best player was Dicks

 

[brogdale]

I’m kind of disappointed there wasn’t a Millwall flag on display as well.

Different city, innit?

 

[Orang Utan]

Tbh football regalia and punters wearing football shirts are, for me, more of NEVER COME IN HERE magic circle than golliwogs are

 

[eatmorecheese]

Needs some Dulwich Hamlet merch up in there, brighten the place up a bit.

 

[T & P]

Different city, innit?

I don’t actually remember where the pub is, but I can’t imagine Millwall being that much further away from it as the crow flies than Spurs or Arsenal. In any event they’re all London clubs.

 

[Sweet FA]

It doesn't really work that way. It's probably twice as far but at the same time about a million miles.

 

[kenny g]

The older crew still call them irons, which given their often homophobic nature and what iron is in their own rhyming slang has always seemed a bit odd to me.

Any reason or evidence to suggest West Ham supporters are "often homophobic" ?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The way I was I abused with my mates in the 80’s and the way my daughter was abused 4 years ago makes 100% anecdotal confirmation for me, thanks.

 

[Orang Utan]

Any reason or evidence to suggest West Ham supporters are "often homophobic" ?

Football crowds in general are

 

[T & P]

Football crowds in general are

Admittedly casual homophobia was a widespread issue in football until a couple of decades ago, but that is not the case nowadays with many if not most clubs.

 

[Orang Utan]

Admittedly casual homophobia was a widespread issue in football until a couple of decades ago, but that is not the case nowadays with many if not most clubs.

How many premier league footballers are there who are out and proud?
Anyone who is different in any way whatsoever gets singled out and chanted at with vituperative barbs by the enemy crowd

 

[Orang Utan]

Needs some Dulwich Hamlet merch up in there, brighten the place up a bit.

Aren’t they just Milwall for Guardian readers?

 

[scifisam]

Aren’t they just Milwall for Guardian readers?

If you want to just hate on people who like football, maybe take it somewhere else.

 

[PR1Berske]

Ah, what a tragic loss to the local community. It looked like such a welcoming and inclusive place as well...

Take away some of the symbols and you've got a standard boozer, the likes of which are closing in their hundreds every month. Drinking culture and post-pandemic economics will kill off hundreds more.

Sadly (?) some pubs deserve to close and under their management this had to.

 

[existentialist]

Take away some of the symbols and you've got a standard boozer, the likes of which are closing in their hundreds every month. Drinking culture and post-pandemic economics will kill off hundreds more.

Sadly (?) some pubs deserve to close and under their management this had to.

Maybe it'll spare some less deserving place from closure. Nice to think that they might inadvertently do some good...

 

[Wilf]

Anyone who is different in any way whatsoever gets singled out and chanted at with vituperative barbs by the enemy crowd

Really?