Go on... rape her... she won't report it... [UniLad magazine article]

[Spymaster]

I'm not talking about the law sorry, I should have made it clearer. why do people always think everything is about the law?

Well your post #134 was a direct response to mine regarding "legal involvement", tbf.

 

[Wilf]

I'm not sure, as a matter of principle, if scumbags like this should actually get prosecuted. However on grounds of schadenfreude alone, I'd be delighted if he did.

 

[JHE]

It was a nasty tasteless rubbish joke from silly teenage boy, who seems already to have been convinced that he went too far.

It would be good if, following the outrage here, u75 became free from encouragement to 'kill' this that or the other person 'in the face' or to do other cruel acts of violence to people disapproved of by people here. It would be an improvement if people on u75 found other better ways of expressing their disapproval. What are the chances? Not good.

 

[Idris2002]

Security is not a dirty word back adder

But the poster on Facebook who claimed to be traumatised by the article was laying it on a bit thick.

Maybe . . . unless it was one of those cases where unwelcome memories were triggered. . .

 

[Jeff Robinson]

It was a nasty tasteless rubbish joke from silly teenage boy, who seems already to have been convinced that he went too far.

It's would be good if, following the outrage here, u75 became free from encouragement to 'kill' this that or the other person 'in the face' or to do other cruel acts of violence to people disapproved of by people here. It would be an improvement if people on u75 found other better ways of expressing their disapproval. What are the chances? Not good.

You say that like it's self-evident. Why would that be an improvement?

 

[Wilf]

It was a nasty tasteless rubbish joke from silly teenage boy, who seems already to have been convinced that he went too far.

It's would be good if, following the outrage here, u75 became free from encouragement to 'kill' this that or the other person 'in the face' or to do other cruel acts of violence to people disapproved of by people here. It would be an improvement if people on u75 found other better ways of expressing their disapproval. What are the chances? Not good.

Does this mean we'll have to get rid of the Punch a Celeb thing?

 

[frogwoman]

there's a difference between how we do it on urban75 though and joking about raping someone. or for that matter posting detailed plans of how you would kill someone. jokes about murder are everywhere in popular culture and murder, corpses etc are viewed as acceptable subjects for humour everywhere.

would you get a series on tv called "the midsomer rapes" exactly the same style and content as the midsomer murders apart from the crime? of course you wouldn't.

 

[Idris2002]

It was a nasty tasteless rubbish joke from silly teenage boy, who seems already to have been convinced that he went too far.

It would be good if, following the outrage here, u75 became free from encouragement to 'kill' this that or the other person 'in the face' or to do other cruel acts of violence to people disapproved of by people here. It would be an improvement if people on u75 found other better ways of expressing their disapproval. What are the chances? Not good.

I think it's useful to compare the way people talk about "killing Tories" and the way they talk about the reality of political violence.

 

[Kaka Tim]

It was a nasty tasteless rubbish joke from silly teenage boy, who seems already to have been convinced that he went too far.

It would be good if, following the outrage here, u75 became free from encouragement to 'kill' this that or the other person 'in the face' or to do other cruel acts of violence to people disapproved of by people here. It would be an improvement if people on u75 found other better ways of expressing their disapproval. What are the chances? Not good.

Becasue they are not equivalent. See my earlier post. The rape shit is akin to 'jokingly' advocating acts of violent racism.

i.e. "David Lamey is full of shit and should be killed in the face"

would be harsh but wouldn't cross the line.

But

"David Lamey is full of shit should be lynched from the nearest tree" would be (rightly) unacceptable.

Ditto 'jokingly' advocating sexual violence agasint tory women.

 

[past caring]

Uni-Lad Magazine is a 'lads mag' for uni students. It recently upped the ante in the 'how low can you go stakes...

In an article titled "Sexual Mathematics" it stated:​

"If the girl you've taken for a drink... won't 'spread for your head', think about this mathematical statistic: 85% of rape cases go unreported.​

"That seems to be fairly good odds."​

The writer then adds at the bottom of the piece: "Uni Lad does not condone rape without saying 'surprise'."​

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...article-after-twitter-backlash_n_1244173.html

apologies if there is already a thread on it

What's your opinion on this, Liam?

Given your posts that followed, Santino, you really are a bit shit at this, aren't you?

 

[LiamO]

Anyone who's seen the execrable Frankie Boyle live will know that he makes a living out of telling shit jokes about rape, child molestation and the like. Many of his gags are worthy of a smack in mouth imo, but not legal involvement.

Come to think of it... this could well be from Mr Boyle originally.

 

[frogwoman]

well the way that people talk about killing tories or fash or whatever on here is very cartoon-like, nothing like the reality of violence as it really is but more like it is in South Park or whatever.

 

[frogwoman]

i mean compare something like
"I'd love to go a wandering along the cliffs of dover and if i see a tory there i'll push the fucker over"(acceptable)

to someone saying something like "i'd love to torture, rape and then beat a tory into a pulp until he died of his injuries" (unacceptable) it's clear that the two are completely different.

one is like how it would happen in a cartoon, if the other was posted here it would be clear that it would have been written by someone who was serious about their intentions (and a bit of a cunt).

 

[LiamO]

Becasue they are not equivalent. See my earlier post. The rape shit is akin to 'jokingly' advocating acts of violent racism.

i.e. "David Lamey is full of shit and should be killed in the face"

would be harsh but wouldn't cross the line.

But

"David Lamey is full of shit should be lynched from the nearest tree" would be (rightly) unacceptable.

Really?

Where would these two lovable rogues fit in this scenario then?

Innit, that fucker needs to be butchered for writing that shit. Hack the cunt up with a meat cleaver.

I'd like to lace his eyes together with meat skewer and let him find his own way home.

from my reading of your post, Libertad would scrape by... whereas poor Jeffrey would be for the high-jump.

 

[LiamO]

well the way that people talk about killing tories or fash or whatever on here is very cartoon-like, nothing like the reality of violence as it really is but more like it is in South Park or whatever.

Whilst I agree with what you are saying... is that not the same rationale as these young students may offer?

 

[FridgeMagnet]

As is well known, we do live in a culture in which murder is common and in which prevalent attitudes, norms, practices, and media normalize, excuse, tolerate, or even condone murder.

 

[frogwoman]

Whilst I agree with what you are saying... is that not the same rationale as these young students may offer?

rape is different though ... there's a reason why people here joke about killing tories but not raping them.

 

[JHE]

I hadn't noticed those particular posts about meat cleavers and skewers, but posts of that sort are not rare on these boards.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Really?

Where would these two lovable rogues fit in this scenario then?

from my reading of your post, Libertad would scrape by... whereas poor Jeffrey would be for the high-jump.

Is this in realtion to David Lamey?

If so I cant see the overt racism reference that would cross the line.

Although it is stupidly over the top detailing that level of extreme violence for an MP talking ignorant shite

 

[Wilf]

Where would these two lovable rogues fit in this scenario then?

from my reading of your post, Libertad would scrape by... whereas poor Jeffrey would be for the high-jump.

You may have left the Rod Liddle thread, but it looks like you carry bits of it round in heart.

 

[frogwoman]

even then though it's not serious, it's on the boundary between acceptable and unacceptable but it's still sufficiently ridiculous enough to be ok because it's so over the top.

 

[JHE]

Becasue they are not equivalent. See my earlier post. The rape shit is akin to 'jokingly' advocating acts of violent racism.

i.e. "David Lamey is full of shit and should be killed in the face"

would be harsh but wouldn't cross the line.

But

"David Lamey is full of shit should be lynched from the nearest tree" would be (rightly) unacceptable.

Ditto 'jokingly' advocating sexual violence agasint tory women.

What about sexual violence against Lammy and lynching Tory women? Would that be OK?

 

[Meltingpot]

would you get a series on tv called "the midsomer rapes" exactly the same style and content as the midsomer murders apart from the crime? of course you wouldn't.

Interesting you say that froggy, because my Mum likes the Midsomer Murders series and we've argued about it. Some of those murders are very graphically depicted, and I find them too disturbing to watch comfortably; Mum thinks it doesn't matter because they are only fictional murders.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Oh its liddle is it?

Fuck him. Only it should be a rusty meat cleaver.

 

[LiamO]

rape is different though ... there's a reason why people here joke about killing tories but not raping them.

I am just saying I bet that's what the students will say. I'm not saying I agree with them.

 

[frogwoman]

What about sexual violence against Lammy and lynching Tory women? Would that be OK?

well if someone said they thought david cameron should be raped do you really think people on here would think it was ok?

 

[Meltingpot]

As is well known, we do live in a culture in which murder is common and in which prevalent attitudes, norms, practices, and media normalize, excuse, tolerate, or even condone murder.

David Starkey (that will kick people off ) said fairly recently that he thinks we have a pornography of violence; violence is depicted as graphically as it is in order to titillate people whose lives are otherwise safe and comfortable and whose appetites have become jaded. I think he could have a point.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

well if someone said they thought david cameron should be raped do you really think people on here would think it was ok?

*ponders ethical dilemma*

 

[frogwoman]

Interesting you say that froggy, because my Mum likes the Midsomer Murders series and we've argued about it. Some of those murders are very graphically depicted, and I find them too disturbing to watch comfortably; Mum thinks it doesn't matter because they are only fictional murders.

i picked midsomer murders because it's an example of what everyone knows is light entertainment, a completely unrealistic and ludicrous "crime" series even if some of the murders are graphically depicted sometimes. The fact that such a programme is on the screen even though the murders are often quite violent says something about our attitude to it compared to our attitude to rape.

 

[Meltingpot]

well if someone said they thought david cameron should be raped do you really think people on here would think it was ok?

I don't think it's less OK than saying he should be killed. I don't condone incitement to murder anywhere though.