Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
suggest you edit the bit you quoted
Go on... rape her... she won't report it... [UniLad magazine article]
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Now you need to edit your post so you are not compounding the situation.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Everyone fucking edit. ffs.
Yeah! Fuck his parents house up! That's the spirit!
indeed.
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wobbly
done.
it will be interesting to hear how much this has gone about the plymouth campus, I have lectures tomorrow.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
ahh no, the mr partridge, as mentioned in the Beeb piece, who is responsible for site content, and yes, I mean by legal means. t'other fellers just ye techie
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I think some people are missing the point here.
What may or may not be joked about runs to the issue of freedom of speech, which of course no country or legal system in the world allows absolutely, and rightly so.
Rape jokes per se, shouldn't necessarily be censured. Anyone who's seen the execrable Frankie Boyle live will know that he makes a living out of telling shit jokes about rape, child molestation and the like. Many of his gags are worthy of a smack in mouth imo, but not legal involvement.
The line is crossed when the statement seeks to influence the behaviour of others.
"I want to rape a woman" while disgusting, is someones viewpoint and shouldn't necessarily warrant legal involvement. However, "you should rape a woman", or as in the OP (paraphrasing) "next time she says no, think about doing it anyway because it won't be reported", is incitement, and should be actionable.
What may or may not be joked about runs to the issue of freedom of speech, which of course no country or legal system in the world allows absolutely, and rightly so.
Rape jokes per se, shouldn't necessarily be censured. Anyone who's seen the execrable Frankie Boyle live will know that he makes a living out of telling shit jokes about rape, child molestation and the like. Many of his gags are worthy of a smack in mouth imo, but not legal involvement.
The line is crossed when the statement seeks to influence the behaviour of others.
"I want to rape a woman" while disgusting, is someones viewpoint and shouldn't necessarily warrant legal involvement. However, "you should rape a woman", or as in the OP (paraphrasing) "next time she says no, think about doing it anyway because it won't be reported", is incitement, and should be actionable.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Once again I am slightly baffled by the Fishese dialect.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
yes, I think you've pretty much nailed it here.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
i was talking about global stoner's post sorry not yours!
likesfish
You can't park here sir
Security is not a dirty word back adder
But the poster on Facebook who claimed to be traumatised by the article was laying it on a bit thick.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I'd think that he was a rapist.
Making urges illegal really is a slippery slope, I think.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I'd think that they should be prosecuted for doing, or attempting, or conspiring, or inciting, to do it. Not for saying that they want to.
This is where the line is.
We cannot and should not seek to imprison people for holding repugnant views.
Where do we stop? "I hate jews/blacks"?, "I'd like to kill jews/blacks"?, "I'd like to kill tories"? ...... "I'd like to kill communists"?
It becomes subjective doesn't it?
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
but if someone went around saying they wanted to rape people,while i don't think that should necc be illegal, would you not think the were a dodgy cunt and keep a close eye on them? you wouldn't treat them as you would anyone else would you? i'm not talking about making it illegal but surely if someone said that to you you wouldn't just treat him like any other person?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Absolutely. Comes back to your earlier point that just because you don't think something should be criminal, that doesn't necessarily mean you think it is ok.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I'm not talking about the law sorry, I should have made it clearer. why do people always think everything is about the law? my point is that if someone said to you something on the lines of "I really want to rape that bitch over there" or even "I want to rape you", would you just carry on as though nothing had happened or would you be freaked out or angry or become violent?
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
so what action should be taken if someone says that? it's not something normal people say, so even if the law doesn't get involved (it probably shouldn't) surely you can't for example think it's ok to treat them as you would anyone else? maybe some sort of medical/social work type body should be made aware that theres someone saying this shit before they go and act on it? I dunno.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
all the illegal stuff - 'while i don't think that should be necc illegal [...] i'm not talking about making it illegal' - does suggest you are in fact talking about the law.
Clair De Lune
Apocalypse cocktails
err while the article was clearly in bad taste (think that was the point though?) imagine for a moment it was put together by women. I think then it could be seen as incitement to report rape. Just saying.
They are obviously just reaching the lighting of farts level of humour.
They are obviously just reaching the lighting of farts level of humour.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
That's going to depend on the circumstances. I'd have thought action might vary from telling him to shut the fuck up to making him shut the fuck up rather more forcefully.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
well yeah ...
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
This wins.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
talking about it yeah, but not - ah fuck it you know what i mean.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i'm not sure i do.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
sorry for not making myself clearer.
i meant that i'm not talking about making what someone says illegal, but if someone said it to you you'd think they were a dodgy fucker, and also if they kept going on about wanting to do it you might consider alerting someone like a doctor or social services, not necessarily the cops, but try to make sure that they were kept an eye on so they didn't end up hurting anyone.
i meant that i'm not talking about making what someone says illegal, but if someone said it to you you'd think they were a dodgy fucker, and also if they kept going on about wanting to do it you might consider alerting someone like a doctor or social services, not necessarily the cops, but try to make sure that they were kept an eye on so they didn't end up hurting anyone.
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