Go on... rape her... she won't report it... [UniLad magazine article]
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It is the case that there are certain things that could be and were published in the past, such as the SCUM Manifesto, that would probably not be allowed today.
Not sure what to do about that. In the end it's as much an aesthetic choice as much as anything - this thing here is so crass and moronic that it's hard to defend its being allowed.
Not sure what to do about that. In the end it's as much an aesthetic choice as much as anything - this thing here is so crass and moronic that it's hard to defend its being allowed.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Archer, Bryson, Cartland, Robins, Brown, Collins...
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
Do you think you might be, y'know, over-reacting a little bit?
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
no.
love detective
there's no love too small
Against Affected Realism and Melancholic Worthiness
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Look at them all.
Shippy - I would see the key difference as being that there is no widespread cultural belief that murder victims are in some way "asking for it", or that murder is in some way a joke or a bit of fun.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Who gets to decide what is crass and moronic though?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Well, hence the problem... For instance, I was very worried about the woman who was prosecuted for publishing poetry in praise of suicide bombers. That was not right.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Kitchen sink lads go on a charabanc ride to the Frankfurt School
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
Well we disagree.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
i can see why that makes it more uncomfortable from a social standpoint but not why it would be legally different. plus i'm not so sure about murder and "asking for it".
and in fact i'd really say it's the opposite in a way. it's because there is a wide use of murder in a comedic fashion that people can get away with that kind of joke.
there are loads of dark comedies about murder
trashpony
Hag
Murder isn't exactly a widespread problem with a really low conviction rate though is it?
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
I'd say writing something on a message board is almost always an under-reaction to just about anything.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Genuine question - what dark comedies about murder can you name? Because off the top of my head I can't think of any.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The Ladykillers?
It's worse than that... a really low conviction rate, even though there is already an 85% non-reporting rate
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
no but that's a slightly different issue isn't it?. the ethics of cracking a joke about a crime isn't determined by it's conviction rate is it?
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
kind hearts and coronets is the top on my list
In fairness Idris there are loads of comedy films (both dark and mainstream) that include a murder or two... the getting rid of the body caper etc... nobody makes comedy films about rape.
Unless these cunts at Unilad are on a Media and Film-making Course.
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
Psychoville?
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
it's because murder isn't a taboo subject or imply violence and power in the same way as rape does.murder is just murder and you see it in loads of comedies, action films, etc.
and there used to be posters here who would post up detailed scenarios about killing paedos and got a load of shit for it, not because people didn't think paedos were scum but because they thought it was disturbing as fuck.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
bit out of order there m8.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Yep, it's all coming back to me. Then you've got Man Bites Dog, which makes comedic usage of both serial killing and rape.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
You don't see the problem that legislating about what people can joke about, distasteful as it may be, could lead to then?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The comedic usage is of the serial killing. The rape is what makes you question what you've been laughing at for the past hour. imo.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
where have i said anything about legislating against anything? why do people always assume that if you don't like a thing you want to be the fucking thought police?
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