i haven't read the rest of your post, but this makes me want to stab you in the eye.Lame0
did you call our former prime minister tony bLIAR too?
i haven't read the rest of your post, but this makes me want to stab you in the eye.Lame0
iirc, frogwoman is 'young person'
i haven't read the rest of your post, but this makes me want to stab you in the eye.
did you call our former prime minister tony bLIAR too?
Oh I know she's a bit more mature than your average late teenager. But I don't think we should tar all 'young people' with the idiot brushOk I'll
I agree with most of your post.
I would point out though that FW is in her early 20's (which in terms of the facebook generation is ancient) and is also a political acivist of many years standing so is unlikely to have too mant 17/18 year old 'lad' mates.
i haven't read the rest of your post, but this makes me want to stab you in the eye.
Lame0 yet again utterly misses the point - when speech acts have a discernible nexus with physical acts they are judged to different standards from speech acts that are simply rhetorical flourish. Rod Liddle slandering disabled people when there are plans afoot to reduce their standard of living is directly complicit in that assault on disabled people. Frat boy vermin who trivialise rape and mock rape victims in a context where rape is a serious social problem (not to mention broader gender based oppression) are complicit in that oppression. Saying that 'lads' should be sent to gulags or that rightwing journalists should be hacked up is so disconnected to anything that happens beyond the confines of a message-board it is clearly just rhetoric. People might not like that rhetoric of course, but your comparision utterly fails to appreciate the difference.
p.s. the Uni-lad scum should all have their cocks blown off with dynamite.
Becasue they are not equivalent. See my earlier post. The rape shit is akin to 'jokingly' advocating acts of violent racism.
i.e. "David Lamey is full of shit and should be killed in the face"
would be harsh but wouldn't cross the line.
But
"David Lamey is full of shit should be lynched from the nearest tree" would be (rightly) unacceptable.
Ditto 'jokingly' advocating sexual violence agasint tory women.
Oh I know she's a bit more mature than your average late teenager. But I don't think we should tar all 'young people' with the idiot brush
i remember saying those exact words to a mate when i was about 17. it isn't new (i'm 34).I don't consider my nephew or his mates idiots either. That is the way they carry on. I don't think a 'mate' ever said anything like... 'I ended up with a mouthful of your spunk last night. teach me not to rim your little sister lol'
Ok I'll
I agree with most of your post.
I would point out though that FW is in her early 20's (which in terms of the facebook generation is ancient) and is also a political acivist of many years standing so is unlikely to have too mant 17/18 year old 'lad' mates.
i do know people who say/have said that sort of shit. bit twattish but i don't think it's the same. espcially when it's published in a magazine rather than being (dodgy) jokes with mates.
btw are you two seperate posters? I find the language jumps from say 'discernible nexus' to 'fuckin kill every cunt' puzzling
I dont recall using either phrase.
I might use 'discourse' and 'cunt' in the same post I guess - but they are two of my favourite words.
err while the article was clearly in bad taste (think that was the point though?) imagine for a moment it was put together by women. I think then it could be seen as incitement to report rape. Just saying.
They are obviously just reaching the lighting of farts level of humour.
Looking at the age of those posters, is there something of an age/generational thing going on here?
iirc, frogwoman is 'young person'
One of my friends explained it like this - her teenage daughter doesn't want to think that anything bad is ever going to happen to her, that the blokes she knows wouldn't do anything like that and so it's funny because it's so implausible. It's like an invisible shield. What is really horrible about that is that if you do get raped by a friend or a fellow student, it makes it so much harder to tell anyone and report. Rape's funny, right? Who the hell is going to take you seriously?
Unilad = "unlaid" (surprisingly enough)
rape jokes were popular amongst mates when i was a teen too. people grow out of it. and friendship used to be more private than it is now.rape jokes for this younger generation are like the way people my age used to make jokes about leprosy when we were the same age in the '70s - we knew we weren't going to get leprosy ourselves so it was OK to find it funny? No matter that it was happening to somebody else?
And? So what if it is?
There only used to be a much smaller number of chortling cunts that would approve of your misogyny at any one time. Now, thanks to the magic of the internet, you can be validated by lots of other cunts within seconds.rape jokes were popular amongst mates when i was a teen too. people grow out of it. and friendship used to be more private than it is now.
Lighting farts can be funny IMO - I once set my PJs on fire doing it and while it didn't seem very funny from where I was sitting, there was a consensus among everyone else there that it was quite possibly the funniest thing that had ever happened in the whole world. Ever. On the other hand, I cannot think of any context in which I would find a rape "joke" funny.
Oh bloody hell, you people are all so young and so stupid.
they'll probably grow out of it too. usually prompted by someone calling them on it, like how it was before web-based social networks.There only used to be a much smaller number of chortling cunts that would approve of your misogyny at any one time. Now, thanks to the magic of the internet, you can be validated by lots of other cunts within seconds.
CleggWhats worse than finding a worm in your apple?
Whats worse than finding a worm in your apple?