brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
It's the transition away from the 2 (and 2.5) party system that FPTP is designed for. Graphs like this one demonstrate the changes quite well:-
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It's the transition away from the 2 (and 2.5) party system that FPTP is designed for. Graphs like this one demonstrate the changes quite well:-
rioted
redundant
You can't be very old, then.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Oo, interesting image, ta, where did it come from?
So (with JTG's comment) it's the growth of the minor parties that is pegging the main two back to 35% or so? I suppose the minor parties could be mopping up the floating voters - perhaps its largely the same people who were swayed at election time to/from labour/tory.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
You can't be very old, then.
What was the question again?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Isn't that chart a bit confusing? It was the Whigs rather than Liberals in the early 1800s.
From wiki on British Political Parties, the Whigs joined with some Tories to became the Liberals after 1868. The dark yellow piece on the diagram looks like the Liberal Unionist Party who merged with the tories in 1912.
So wiki reckons that today's Lib Dems are actually the Whigs people are voting for?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes it is a simplified representation, but the point remains in answer to your question about what has changed over the last decades.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Out of interest, what percentage of the entire electorate does the SNP-voting proportion add up to? Scotland is something like 8% of the UK population, so if it's 50% SNP then that's around 4% overall, is that about right? I'm surprised it's not included separately when poll results are presented for the whole UK (could be a deliberate tactic to help deny legitimacy to their 'block').
Labour are showing as roughly level pegging with the tory vote in England & Wales, which should gain them seats here. If Scotland sits in the labour column that ought to stop any tory government in its tracks. If tories gain seats anywhere it's likely to be at the expense of the lib dems, so that won't help their numbers overall if they're aiming for the same coalition (but might help with this spurious 'moral case' of having the most seats of any party).
It's all a delightful mess, right now I'm tuning out a bit thinking wait and see, finding it hard to carry on worrying about it.
Labour are showing as roughly level pegging with the tory vote in England & Wales, which should gain them seats here. If Scotland sits in the labour column that ought to stop any tory government in its tracks. If tories gain seats anywhere it's likely to be at the expense of the lib dems, so that won't help their numbers overall if they're aiming for the same coalition (but might help with this spurious 'moral case' of having the most seats of any party).
It's all a delightful mess, right now I'm tuning out a bit thinking wait and see, finding it hard to carry on worrying about it.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes, your maths is good. Some pollsters have included separate SNP figures at times and 4 or even 5% of the UK popular vote has been recorded.
And...yes, because of their Scots meltdown, Lab's E&W only figures have, for some time, been better than their UK polling.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
yup, 4% is about right. It is becoming more common to see it included now, but its still a bit hit and miss. Before, it was barely worth mentioning, but now....it does look a bit funny 'how many MP's on such a small percentage?' Arguably it'd look worse for the SNP if they did include it
Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
Quoted for posterity.
Does that graph indicate that the Tories have always had more of the vote than Labour, if so, the Ragged Trousered Philanthropist was always/is required reading.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
This graph affords a more accurate reading of the actuality...
The RTP remains 'required reading' irrespective.
No it isn't, it's a terrible read
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Anyway, I've been away. Has anything changed?
Smangus
comatose at a desk
Apparently there's an election on.
What we voting for?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
It was on when I left. But I've been walking in the hills and had no wifi. I wondered if there had been any seismic developments. (My guess is not, but you never know. My money wasn't on Charlotte for the Magic Baby).
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Someone on a social medium told me this. What a twat.Brand's 'mind'...apparently.
gosub
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
DotCommunist
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