General Coronavirus (COVID-19) chat

[Aladdin]

I assume vaccines produce slightly different antibodies to the various different variants of covid, and they can work out which is which, in a similar way as they tell the different between the various variants.

Oh, here you go, seems to be the difference between standard antibodies, and spike protein antibodies.

Covid-19 Antibody and Vaccine Immunity Test

monitormyhealth.org.uk

I find that a little confusing..

I took a covid 19 antibody test a few weeks ago.
And this was what the kit said..



It seems to say that spike proteins show in naturally produced antibodies and also in antibodies created in response to the vaccine.

 

[cupid_stunt]

I find that a little confusing..

I took a covid 19 antibody test a few weeks ago.
And this was what the kit said..

It seems to say that spike proteins show in naturally produced antibodies and also in antibodies created in response to the vaccine.

OK, must be different spike proteins.

Natural infection with coronavirus will produce different antibodies. These antibodies can bind to not just the spike, but also to other viral proteins such as the nucleocapsid. Current COVID-19 vaccines in development do not lead to antibodies against the nucleocapsid protein.

Science of Vaccines and Monoclonal Antibodies

Learn the science of COVID-19 vaccines and monoclonal antibodies and stay up to date on the most current information.

www.coronaviruspreventionnetwork.org

 

[2hats]

The two different antibody tests look for nucleocapsid (N) or spike (S1, S2 region). The former assumed to be from natural infection only. Though this won't hold for those immunised with inactivated or attenuated whole virus vaccines (not yet approved in the UK).

 

[flypanam]

I went on the bus and tube today for various reasons, armed with my FFP2 mask.

One of a few 'why the fuck did I do this' prompts was a person who got on the tube and sat a couple of seats down from me; no mask; got out a hand fan to flap their covid breath at everyone; and was sniffling and dabbing at their snotty nose with a tissue. I had to move.

I hate this. Hate feeling so hostile to people. Hate the real risk that some don't get or don't believe in or don't care about.

Hate it hate it hate it.

(I can be grown up and practical about managing it some other time.)

Went for a walk today, when strolling down Church Road, CP, I saw a couple in their late 30’s sporting t shirts that said ‘track and trace this’ with a middle finger gesture, the other one had some similar but slightly different message along the line of ‘you’ll not vax me’ I’m starting to despair again and not looking forward to autumn nor winter.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Went for a walk today, when strolling down Church Road, CP, I saw a couple in their late 30’s sporting t shirts that said ‘track and trace this’ with a middle finger gesture, the other one had some similar but slightly different message along the line of ‘you’ll not vax me’ I’m starting to despair again and not looking forward to autumn nor winter.

Just remember the loons are a minority, amongst the minority of 12.5% yet to have a first jab, the UK is doing a lot better than most counties.

 

[flypanam]

Just remember the loons are a minority, amongst the minority of 12.5% yet to have a first jab, the UK is doing a lot better than most counties.

True enough but after reading Epidemics and Society I can’t help feel that unless there is some serious societal change we’re looking five to 7 years of outbreaks and viral mutations.

 

[_Russ_]

We are putting way too much reliance on the Vaccine, its not just the anti-vaxxers that will fuck it up its all those (and there are many) who think they can go around as if its all over because they've been jabbed.
At a rough estimation about 80% of people I know are now behaving like this

 

[Flavour]

I have just come back to Italy after a few days in the UK and have developed a nasty dry cough. My 5 day test (lateral flow) came back negative but going to get a pcr tomorrow. Bit paranoid

 

[Badgers]

Had a lot (17%) of the staff at the CovidCoalFace and their families positive last few days

Almost all double vaccinated with free access to PPE and well trained

 

[Badgers]

So 30,800 new cases reported
Zoe app stating nearly 52,000 cases

174 deaths (ignoring the 'exceptions')



#worldbeating

 

[Badgers]

 

[Badgers]

On way to Cornwall #superspreader

Luckily I am away from the other humans

Almost 5,000 Covid cases linked to Cornish music and surf festival | Cornwall | The Guardian

Organisers of Boardmasters say event had measures in place ‘above and beyond national guidelines’Coronavirus – latest updates

amp.theguardian.com

 

[Badgers]

8 March 2021 we recorded 65 deaths and 4,712 new cases and unvaccinated pupils wore masks to protect each other.

Yesterday 30,838 new cases and 174 deaths. Pupils in England are back to school next week this time without any protection.

 

[Flavour]

I have just come back to Italy after a few days in the UK and have developed a nasty dry cough. My 5 day test (lateral flow) came back negative but going to get a pcr tomorrow. Bit paranoid

happy to report that I, at least, do not have covid

 

[Badgers]

Boris Johnson is 'keeping an eye on third wave' but does not plan fresh restrictions

Nicola Sturgeon has not ruled out fresh measures in Scotland after a surge in covid cases there

inews.co.uk

#worldbeating

 

[Badgers]

Cornwall has highest rate of Covid cases in country (but there's more to it)

Cornwall is showing the highest rate of new Covid cases out of anywhere in the country.

www.falmouthpacket.co.uk

I am in Cornwall luckily just house (and beach hut ) sitting so not hitting pubs or shop's or owt.

There are LOT of places closed

 

[Badgers]

Cornwall has highest rate of Covid cases in country (but there's more to it)

Cornwall is showing the highest rate of new Covid cases out of anywhere in the country.

www.falmouthpacket.co.uk

I am in Cornwall luckily just house (and beach hut ) sitting so not hitting pubs or shop's or owt.

There are LOT of places closed

Paywalled but you get the general idea

It is perfectly reasonable for Cornwall to ask people to test before they arrive

Cornwall’s case rate is near-double that of the wider UK. Ignoring this isn’t responsible, nor will it make the issue go away

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[iona]

Brighton station so crowded there were loads of police not letting anyone else in when I got back just now

 

[Badgers]

 

[Badgers]

Cornwall has highest rate of Covid cases in country (but there's more to it)

Cornwall is showing the highest rate of new Covid cases out of anywhere in the country.

www.falmouthpacket.co.uk

I am in Cornwall luckily just house (and beach hut ) sitting so not hitting pubs or shop's or owt.

There are LOT of places closed

Welcome to Cornwall: Covid super-spreader capital of Britain

Tom Johnson, an NHS cardiologist, and his GP wife urged their 18-year-old daughter not to go to the Boardmasters Festival in Newquay because if she caught Covid amongst the 50,000 revellers then their holiday to France would be scuppered.However, Sophie had saved up £200 for her ticket and didn’t wa

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[Buddy Bradley]

Why have the home test kits changed? You don't need to shove it down your throat any more, only up your nose - is that because that's where Delta mostly lives?

 

[Badgers]

Why have the home test kits changed? You don't need to shove it down your throat any more, only up your nose - is that because that's where Delta mostly lives?

They are changing but a lot of the old 'throat and nose' kits are still about.

The nose only swabs are not delta specific, merely that testing is improving.

 

[PERTHBUM]

Work in a pub and a fellow worker who refuses the jab and keeps telling us who who have had the jab that we are stupid got covid and was hospitalised, we did have a chuckle to be honest.

 

[Badgers]

Welcome to Cornwall: Covid super-spreader capital of Britain

Tom Johnson, an NHS cardiologist, and his GP wife urged their 18-year-old daughter not to go to the Boardmasters Festival in Newquay because if she caught Covid amongst the 50,000 revellers then their holiday to France would be scuppered.However, Sophie had saved up £200 for her ticket and didn’t wa

www.thetimes.co.uk

Boris Johnson is warning Devon and Cornwall to 'act responsibility', but his policies left us in this mess

The south-west peninsula was doing just fine before the Prime Minister lauded it about at the G7 Summit, removed all Covid restrictions, and permitted 53,000 largely unvaccinated young adults to mosh together in Newquay

inews.co.uk

#worldbeating

 

[two sheds]

Boris Johnson is warning Devon and Cornwall to 'act responsibility', but his policies left us in this mess

The south-west peninsula was doing just fine before the Prime Minister lauded it about at the G7 Summit, removed all Covid restrictions, and permitted 53,000 largely unvaccinated young adults to mosh together in Newquay

inews.co.uk

#worldbeating

Boardmasters has its own 'festival' Delta variant now

 

[Badgers]

He said information had been skewed by social media and conspiracy theorists and he had not had the vaccine.

The 40-year-old said his symptoms started with a flu-like feeling, which got progressively worse, and he was eventually admitted to hospital, suffering from breathing difficulties.
"First thing I am going tell all my family to do is get the vaccine and anybody I see," he said.

Former Covid sceptic dies in hospital - BBC News

Marcus Birks, 40, went on to urge other people to get the Covid vaccine after he was hospitalised.

www.bbc.co.uk

Hindsight is a lovely thing

 

[Ming]

Good channel. He’s Dr Ed Hope who works in A&E. He also does trauma diagnosis of movie fight scenes.

 

[gentlegreen]

The local pharmacy has offered to give me my free flu jab early - I suppose I should go for it - though for as long as I continue to mask up in the supermarket I'm unlikely to catch it ...
Since I'm hoping to have a social life in the future I suppose I'll need to get used to having the jab every year ...

 

[Ming]

The local pharmacy has offered to give me my free flu jab early - I suppose I should go for it - though for as long as I continue to mask up in the supermarket I'm unlikely to catch it ...
Since I'm hoping to have a social life in the future I suppose I'll need to get used to having the jab every year ...

Yep. Do it. I’m a peer immuniser at work (i give other nurses the annual flu jab). Everyone should get it unless you’ve got a good medical reason not to. Covid-19 is likely an endemic so expect to have a regular repeat jab depending on how it mutates.

 

[Sunray]

I was listening to Dr John Cambell today.

He is saying there has been a shift in the medical and scientific community very recently.
The consensus is saying you are going to meet COVID-19, its just a matter of time. Unless of course you don't leave the house and don't have anyone around.

Given you can still get COVID-19 post vaccination, heard immunity isn't possible, its here to stay for the future. There is no point in the mass testing because its out there, rather than just scaring ourselves with big numbers, its better to just test sick people like we do for other illnesses such as the flu. Germany are going to stop free testing soon.