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[A380]

 

[A380]

So . . . Jumbo 747 "bump" . . . A380's bonnet . . . and what's the third thing then? The TriStar's arse engine?

It is indeed an arse engine, but from the DC10 not the Tristar.

 

[A380]

I got it.

That means you are almost as sad as me.

 

[Storm Fox]

So . . . Jumbo 747 "bump" . . . A380's bonnet . . . and what's the third thing then? The TriStar's arse engine?

777 Landing gear?

 

[teuchter]

So it's some different planes stuck together. I still don't get why the text says "Teacher: The test isn't that confusing".

 

[A380]

777 Landing gear?

Good lord, I do believe you are both correct and so as sad as both spitfire and me...

 

[A380]

So it's some different planes stuck together. I still don't get why the text says "Teacher: The test isn't that confusing".

And we all know the only aeroplane you would be interested in:



Makes my skin crawl.

 

[T & P]

On different matters, I don't think the preliminary 30-day official report that usually follows a plane crash has actually been released, but the likely cause remains a mystery and being narrowed down to two equally unsettling theories…

China Eastern 737 crash clues point to few plausible causes

Aviation safety experts increasingly see only a few plausible reasons why a China Eastern Airlines Boeing 737-800 plunged into the ground on 21 March, killing all 132 people aboard.

www.flightglobal.com

 

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[Elpenor]

Project Sunrise is go!

Direct and non stop flights to London, Paris, Frankfurt and New York from Sydney from 2025

Direct flights from Sydney to London and NYC are starting — this is how long passengers will need to spend on board

Qantas has announced it will begin direct flights from Sydney to London and New York from 2025, in what will be the world's longest passenger routes.

www.abc.net.au

 

[T & P]

I wonder if their economy product on this route is going to be slightly more comfortable to that in the rest of their network. It sounds like it from their press release

 

[A380]

I wonder if their economy product on this route is going to be slightly more comfortable to that in the rest of their network. It sounds like it from their press release

19 hours in an economy seat would be a laugh. But I suppose you could just book an extra day/night in a hotel on arrival and the total 'journey' time would be about the same without the faffing of transfers.

 

[Elpenor]

I guess it’s aimed at the corporate market.

The great circle route for the Europe - Aus routes almost certainly goes over Russia so if the war is still a factor when the route launches then maybe it won’t launch

 

[DownwardDog]

19 hours in an economy seat would be a laugh. But I suppose you could just boom an extra day/night in a hotel on arrival and the total 'journey' time would be about the same without the faffing of transfers.

I've done the PER-LHR flight (blocked at 16h 50m) in J class and that felt like... enough.

It'll probably be a huge money spinner for Qantas but I still prefer a 1 stop via SIN.

 

[T & P]

I've done the PER-LHR flight (blocked at 16h 50m) in J class and that felt like... enough.

It'll probably be a huge money spinner for Qantas but I still prefer a 1 stop via SIN.

How long are such stopovers? A few hours that allow you to disembark and get some fresh air and stretch your legs, or an overnight stop? Or presumably airlines offer both options.

I like the idea of spending a day in a city to break the journey if I’m travelling for leisure and time is not an issue, but I’d imagine business travellers might not have that luxury.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Eco and biz fares will have a premium, there’s no way to cross 10 time zones without jet lag though, I have arrived in Manila once fresh as a daisy, night flight from Frankfurt, plenty of booze and early evening arrival meant by the time you get to hotel, have a mooch around and a couple of beers you are fucked and it’s bedtime locally.

Similarly flying to US west coast, late afternoon flight from London is your friend, take a morning flight and you’ll feel like you’re tripping for days…

 

[T & P]

Eco and biz fares will have a premium, there’s no way to cross 10 time zones without jet lag though, I have arrived in Manila once fresh as a daisy, night flight from Frankfurt, plenty of booze and early evening arrival meant by the time you get to hotel, have a mooch around and a couple of beers you are fucked and it’s bedtime locally.

Similarly flying to US west coast, late afternoon flight from London is your friend, take a morning flight and you’ll feel like you’re tripping for days…

Yeah, from my limited long haul experience, I would say that departure and arrival times on flights up to 12 hours or so are pretty important regarding alertness on arrival and jet lag management.

The longest flight/ time zone change combo I’ve ever done was London to HK, a 4-day work trip . Quite unintentionally I managed to completely avoid jet lag both at HK or on my return to London, by virtue of getting shitfaced every evening. I guess the drunkenness & subsequent hangover every day of the trip cancelled out the usual effects of jet lag.

Best business trip ever, and a thoroughly recommend technique to beat jet lag on short trips. Obviously a permissive and like minded boss is also required for the exercise.

 

[Elpenor]

Day flights from Asia are the worst.

I read online about someone whose ultra long haul flight strategy was to rohypnol themself, it worked fine until the time the plane made an unscheduled landing and they had to be dragged off

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Once did Hong Kong to London when Air New Zealand operated the route, 0830 departure, 14 hours later landed around 2pm. Had champers before take off, then a FNZB (only time I ever had toast cooked on a flight ), then asked for some vino as I settled down to watch some films, 10 minutes later another glass, when I asked for the 3rd she left the bottle, then bought another one, then another. A few brandies followed and soon enough we were at Heathrow. Frau Bahn picked me up and we went to the pub. Was fine at work the next day, thoroughly recommend Air New Zealand, shame they no longer fly to Europe…

 

[Lancman]

My longest flight was 18 hours 25 minutes, Ballykelly to Ballykelly, never got above 1000 ft. honker's stew, no time zone problems.

 

[teuchter]

Funny how air travellers aka snowflakes think 18 hours is a "long" journey.

 

[T & P]

Funny how air travellers aka snowflakes think 18 hours is a "long" journey.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Funny how air travellers aka snowflakes think 18 hours is a "long" journey.

If Einstein taught us anything is that time=distance and 18 hours is 9000 miles. The sort of weirdo that takes trains over planes cos they don’t really have anywhere pressing to be, would find a 9000 mile train ride exceptionally long, but at least they could bore the shit out of the other odd-bods on board with their tales of various gauges they have ridden.

 

[Lancman]

Time x speed = distance.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Time x speed = distance.

Speed is relative.

 

[Lancman]

Speed may be considered a constant 500 in the travel agent's world but it varies a great deal elsewhere. Try the distance for 18 hours at 160 knots. But I agree with the rest of your post, to a certain degree.

 

[DownwardDog]

honker's stew

War crime.

 

[skyscraper101]

Think I'd rather still stop in Singapore than do the whole flight in one go but I'd try it out of curiosity.

 

[teuchter]

Some of the insights you can get by reading urban75 are quite remarkable. Today I learnt that if you go faster, you can cover a greater distance in the same time - quite a revelation.

 

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