existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Don't you think there might be a bit more to it than dialectical materialism and the mechanics?
You write as if people are just physical bodies, with no intellect, emotions, or subjectivity.
Gender idealism?
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You write as if people are just physical bodies, with no intellect, emotions, or subjectivity.
Yugoslav
Jugoslaven
The thing is, I have become rather conscious of this issue. Lost a close friend. Felt tragic. I didn't do wrong. I was being emotionally supportive. Sometimes the material support came in form of food. The major problem was that she identified as a man and because her social transition did not subvert my Marxist materialism, she was upset and basically the friendship went on a whirl of hideous gaslighting from her until I just had it enough and decided to cut contact.
While this is just a bad experience and not everyone would do the same, it did feel like something isn't right. These people are following a postmodernist idealism and despite their "anti-capitalism", they're just either radical liberals or straight up reformists for most part. Even some queer MLs (mostly the TQ ones and not really the LGB ones) don't really help but instead defend this idealist notion and misinterpret Marx despite the fact that Marx would have called this nothing more than Hegelian idealism of the 21st century.
Yugoslav
Jugoslaven
They have intellect though. They are explained by the fact that they have a nervous system. So they can physically feel things and express emotions caused by them.
hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
I don't think you're doing dialectical materialism any favours if you're making it into such a crude blunt instrument that it can't cope with the existence of social categories. There's no innate biological differences between workers and capitalists but I don't think that means it's idealist to talk about workers and capitalists.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
You're an AI aren't you?
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Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Sounds like you might have been gaslighting him too. Dialectically, of course.
Yugoslav
Jugoslaven
That's transhumanism you're bringing up. Materialism is not transhumanism though.
Yugoslav
Jugoslaven
No gaslighting done by me against her. I provided material and emotional support. It happened for real and we actually enjoyed some good friend time. Would have been better and more stable had both of us understood this dialectical materialism.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
So, have you tried switching yourself off then on again at the wall?
Yugoslav
Jugoslaven
It's called sleeping. But I'm afraid this would somehow move out of the topic.
Back to work! As I said, I had the right to considerably terminate the friendship due to her inability to cooperate. Unfortunately, the material reality is zero-sum. There was an attempt of "reconciling" but it never worked because what she would have gained, I would have lost and what I would have gained, she would have lost. Very sad.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Don't make me go all dialectical Jimmy Hill on ya!
Yugoslav
Jugoslaven
But only through a revolution can this be stopped because we don't want trans people to be isolated with this hyper-idealism. They must embrace the material reality and accept the materialist outlook for it will make it easier for them and they will be happier if they actually are the desired gender. Remember, ideas require material conditions to be satisfied.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
What does your username mean, Yugoslav ? Specifically, whom is it intended to annoy? Bosnians? Serbs? Croats? Montenegrins? Or is it meant to show loyalty to the USSR?
I doubt it reflects well on you, whatever the name and the flag symbolise, but that’s just a guess and I could be completely wrong.
I doubt it reflects well on you, whatever the name and the flag symbolise, but that’s just a guess and I could be completely wrong.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
While they're standing in the welfare lines, crying at the doorsteps of those armies of salvation,wasting time in the unemployment lines,sitting around waiting for a promotion, Don't you know, talking about a revolution?, It sounds like a whisper poor people gonna rise up and get their share poor people gonna rise up and take what's theirs
Don't you know you better run, run, run, run, run, run run, run, run, run, run, run. Oh, I said you better run, run, run, run, run, run run, run, run, run, run, run. 'Cause finally the tables are starting to turn. Talkin' 'bout a revolution
'Cause finally the tables are starting to turn. Talkin' 'bout a revolution, oh no. Talkin' 'bout a revolution, oh.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Where to even begin?
Yugoslav
Jugoslaven
Simple. My username indicates that I am a pan-Slavic commie. Something Stalin is not good at.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Yeah, intellect. Are you one of those fruitcakes that thinks we can intellectualise our way out of every challenge we face?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Funny, I had exactly the same thought!
Yugoslav
Jugoslaven
Paternal socialism does not make people spoiled. You will work eight hours a day, Monday to Saturday, and rest on Sunday (except for economically vital areas) in worker-run areas (no private property). You keep your personal property and you get support if you are in poverty. Of course, your work routine will depend on whether you are able-bodied to carry the labor. But don't worry. Machinery will ease up a little and all you gotta do is make sure that the machines do not become self-aware and don't break down. You will get exceptionally good wage and the economy will mostly be domestic with little trading with other socialist states.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Him. It is polite to use the gender pronoun the individual wishes, and as he had identified as a trans man, "him" is less likely to misgender him.
Yugoslav
Jugoslaven
The trans issue is not that hard as they claim. People just want to be liberated from gender dysphoria. Why not give 'em for free? It's a promising and revolutionary step that can be only carried by the most socialist of the working men in the people's democracy.
PTK
Paul Kegan
If you are pan-slav, then why use the term "yugo" which, as far as I know, means "south"? Your communism does not include north slavs or Albanians?
Yugoslav
Jugoslaven
But would you say the same for a pre-transition trans man whose material composure is female?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Bullshit. Socialism does not hold a monopoly on compassion.
Yugoslav
Jugoslaven
Yugoslavia was kind of a pan-Slavic attempt. But it failed because Tito relied on IMF, didn't industrialize other regions, didn't make Sarajevo the capital of Yugoslavia, and didn't pick Stane Dolanc and went on with the flawed collective presidency which allowed Serbian bureaucrats led by Milosevic to seize power and destroy Yugoslavia and commit genocide in Srebrenica. That is a topic for another time.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Eight hours a day? so two tons of number nine coal? I load 16 tons, but what do I get? another day older and deeper in debt?
PTK
Paul Kegan
I thought you advocated socialism, but now you adovocate "people's democracy".
Yugoslav
Jugoslaven
You're telling me that socialism cannot be "compassionate" to the workers?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I'll tell you what I'd do, and you could try this yourself with your maunderings here - I'd read the bloody room. Like, in your example, ASKING them how they'd like to be known.
PTK
Paul Kegan
Six days a week is what struck me.
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