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Gender idealism?

Kaka Tim said:
it should be this and its defenitiely that - says you .... why not just fuck off and let people do what they want with their bodies and identify in the way that they feel most comfortable with? Rather than completely ignore their actual lived experience and bash them round the head with 100 year old tomes that have nothing to say about gender identity?
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My body my choice, eh? Well, I'm certainly for that, but you need to realize something. If a man likes being feminine, he's a femboy, and if a woman likes being masculine, she is a tomboy.

You need to learn this if you don't want to label the wrong person as trans. Hence, I believe that transgender is something that happens from severe gender dysphoria and yearns to be truly the opposite gender body compared to the one they have.
 
Yugoslav said:
1. Me advocating for medical transition is not transphobia. The "transmed" accusations are reactionary right-wing talking points disguised as "supportive of trans rights" because it undermines the meaning of being trans and implies that somehow anyone can be transgender. The right opportunist (social democrat/liberal left) assumption of such is transphobic for it denies healthcare to these people.

2. Gender should be seen in a material aspect. This does not mean that people can't be trans. You can still transition in a communist society with medical transition. After all, medical transition is what will emancipate a transgender person from the "wrong body" they claim to be born in (serious gender dysphoria).
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you have repeateldy been told you are a transphobe for a number of reasons
you have repeatedly been called out on dogmatic, doctrinaire disrepect of bodily autonomy and you insistence that Gender COnfriming Surgieries are a requirement to be valid as a trans person
 
Yugoslav said:
Yes. If being trans means you literally want to be the opposite gender, then you should pursue for that and not be stuck to the "wrong body" you so much despise of.

Not the same as someone wanting to be a femboy or tomboy.
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you have repeatedly been told to sit down , shut up and use the orifices in your skull in the correct proportions
 
Yugoslav said:
My body my choice, eh? Well, I'm certainly for that, but you need to realize something. If a man likes being feminine, he's a femboy, and if a woman likes being masculine, she is a tomboy.

You need to learn this if you don't want to label the wrong person as trans. Hence, I believe that transgender is something that happens from severe gender dysphoria and yearns to be truly the opposite gender body compared to the one they have.
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Looking forward to your transition to being banned
 
InArduisFouette said:
you have repeateldy been told you are a transphobe for a number of reasons
you have repeatedly been called out on dogmatic, doctrinaire disrepect of bodily autonomy and you insistence that Gender COnfriming Surgieries are a requirement to be valid as a trans person
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As if you aren't repeating the same thing over again. The same thing about "body autonomy". I do want body autonomy but it seems that time and time again, the Fabianite language is not changing at all.

"Real oppression is homelessness, hunger, destitution, war, poverty, police brutality, anti-trade-union laws, etc. While we talk about identities, are we seriously challenging this oppression?"

- Letter: Identity politics v class politics
 
For freedom is understood from different perspectives of ours. Yours is that freedom should be the right to reject objectivity. If that is the freedom of yours, then my guy, you have what is called "liberalism".

What common good are you bringing to the transgender people if all you do is just spew anti-affirming care points, inclining that gender dysphoria is a feeling and not a driving force of being transgender? Is the notion of a man simply doing things traditionally considered feminine considered "trans behavior" or is it "femboy behavior"?
 
"In fighting for the interests of the working class as a whole, LGBTs will obviously also benefit. LGBTs would be much better off if everyone had a job."

- Also from The Communists (April 20th, 2019)

Socialism acknowledges the concern for LGBT people, especially transgender people. By emancipating the proletariat, LGBT people will also be more free in a socialist state. The problem is not the people. The problem is the ideology of purist, postmodernist, reactionary idealism which is harming the working class, the LGBT too, and socialism itself. Socialism cannot unconditionally agree or work.

We certainly will fight for human rights for they are indeed part of the class struggle, but any idealist spokesman within the bourgeois hierarchy, a "representative" if you will of said minority group, can they really be trusted more than an actual person of the minority? I myself would trust more of my own fellow Yugoslav over the issue of Yugoslavia rather than an American or Russian who aren't really into the Yugoslav history and the Yugoslav Wars and their tragedy caused by said idpol of separatism of the Serbs and Croats.

If Balkanizing the society based on gender is the "new thing", then I won't be surprised to see another Yugoslavia fall down on a large scale. I feel sorry that these people have to undergo something that my family went through in the 1990s.
 
krtek a houby said:
Did you force them to have surgery?
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No because it was an ethnicity issue, not a gender issue since transgender people were not really known to Yugoslavs in the 1990s (because everyone was pretty much fighting a bloody war initiated by Serbian and Croatian elites (later on the other rich elites and imperialist involvement from USA on non-Serb side and a bit of Russia on the Serbia side).
 
However, ethnicity is not the same as gender. But the outcome of the 2020s is the same as the 1990s Yugoslavia.

We're on the road to an unnecessary war being instigated by the bourgeois elite where people are being pushed into fighting each other over gender. The simple solution that is constantly being bogged down is that we provide obvious affirming care to trans people for free. A free medical transition. Unfortunately, the amount of anti-affirming care revisionists and social democrat opportunists who reject this as "truscum ideology" or "TERF ideology" the same way Serbs rejected Tito as an "Ustasha" is paving way for utter destruction of historical progress.
 
Yugoslav said:
For freedom is understood from different perspectives of ours. Yours is that freedom should be the right to reject objectivity. If that is the freedom of yours, then my guy, you have what is called "liberalism".

What common good are you bringing to the transgender people if all you do is just spew anti-affirming care points, inclining that gender dysphoria is a feeling and not a driving force of being transgender? Is the notion of a man simply doing things traditionally considered feminine considered "trans behavior" or is it "femboy behavior"?
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The tape's got stuck in this one. Surely time to put them out of their misery?
 
When the Serbs wanted to cry about their separatism being challenged, they would go on a rant in the 1986 SANU memorandum in which they claimed how it was "oppressive" of Tito to decentralize the power from Beograd to other republics (although Tito may have decentralized a little too much that it tried to be reversed by Serbs but caused collapse). The same way the idealists claim that it is "oppressive" to provide affirming care. History is repeating. We are ignoring it and silencing it for no reason!
 
Yugoslav said:
However, ethnicity is not the same as gender. But the outcome of the 2020s is the same as the 1990s Yugoslavia.

We're on the road to an unnecessary war being instigated by the bourgeois elite where people are being pushed into fighting each other over gender. The simple solution that is constantly being bogged down is that we provide obvious affirming care to trans people for free. A free medical transition. Unfortunately, the amount of anti-affirming care revisionists and social democrat opportunists who reject this as "truscum ideology" or "TERF ideology" the same way Serbs rejected Tito as an "Ustasha" is paving way for utter destruction of historical progress.
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If only you had been freely made part of another state, maybe Serbia. It would have been a simple solution, right?
 
Yugoslav said:
If someone is a man because "they say they're a man", then they only have changed their label, not themselves. Do you think that gender change presents an instantaneous dramatic shift? Nope! That's purist idealism!
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If someone is a Yugoslav because they say they're a Yugoslav, they have only changed their label, not themselves.
 
krtek a houby said:
If someone is a Yugoslav because they say they're a Yugoslav, they have only changed their label, not themselves.
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Because Yugoslav is not a gender? It's a supra-national label at best which was a thing in Tito's Yugoslavia but is now very rare since not a lot of people identify with it.

Moving on to the gender thing. For a man's a man if his body is male. A woman's a woman if her body is female. A body of both male and female characteristics is Intersex.
 
Yugoslav said:
Moving on to the gender thing. For a man's a man if his body is male. A woman's a woman if her body is female. A body of both male and female characteristics is Intersex.
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You've been told this isn't the case. Just because you arrogantly repeat it, doesn't make it true.

Time to saddle up your one trick pony and get the hell out of dodge.
 
krtek a houby said:
You've been told this isn't the case. Just because you arrogantly repeat it, doesn't make it true.

Time to saddle up your one trick pony and get the hell out of dodge.
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It isn't about repeating it.

It's the objective truth. You learn this from basic biology. You can even look up the basic anatomy between man and woman.

How is this quantum physics to you even?! Oh I know. The bourgeoisie aims to make it unscrupulously harder to understand basic things all in the name of "political correctness".
 
Yugoslav said:
As if you aren't repeating the same thing over again. The same thing about "body autonomy". I do want body autonomy but it seems that time and time again, the Fabianite language is not changing at all.

"Real oppression is homelessness, hunger, destitution, war, poverty, police brutality, anti-trade-union laws, etc. While we talk about identities, are we seriously challenging this oppression?"

- Letter: Identity politics v class politics
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Reported , once again, for your transphobia and misogyny
 
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