Gaza under attack yet again.

[Theisticle]

I feel sick, video highlights the impact of the Shajaiya market shelling [warning: very graphic].

Spoiler

 

[hipipol]

"@Zee_Gaza
I don't want to be referred to as an Arab, Arabs failed us all in this plight. I'm a Palestinian Canaanite."

Exodus 3:8
"And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites."

Exodus is a decent record of the first ethnic cleansing of the Land of Caanan by the Israelites
AS such it seems a fair statement of future intetent
Fair play the first timethey did buy the land for the Temple from the Jebusites and even still use the name for the Jebusite capital, Jerusalem

"The Jebusites contested David's entrance into Jerusalem (II Sam. v. 6-8). Later a notable Jebusite, Araunah, or Ornan, sold his thrashing-floor to David for the erection of an altar (II Sam. xxiv. 18-24; I Chron. xxi. 18-25). The Jebusites as well as the other tribes that had not been exterminated were reduced to serfdom by Solomon (I Kings ix. 20, 21). In the expression of Zechariah," and Ekron will be as a Jebusite" (Zech. ix. 7), "Jebusite" must be taken to mean "Jerusalemite."


http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/8542-jebusites

Seems to justified by a Holy Book again

The Jebusites as well as the other tribes that had not been exterminated were reduced to serfdom by Solomon (I Kings ix. 20, 21)

 

[Theisticle]

David Frum, what an asshole, read his non-apology for defaming some photo journalists: http://t.co/tN4F0tQq6A

Background reading: http://www.lobelog.com/david-frums-sources/

 

[Mr.Bishie]

"@AP
BREAKING: White House: US condemns Israel's shelling of UN school in Gaza Strip."

So WTF are they going to do about this massacre then? Absolutely fuck all I'd wager!

 

[agricola]

Exodus 3:8
"And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; unto the place of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites."

Exodus is a decent record of the first ethnic cleansing of the Land of Caanan by the Israelites
AS such it seems a fair statement of future intetent
Fair play the first timethey did buy the land for the Temple from the Jebusites and even still use the name for the Jebusite capital, Jerusalem

"The Jebusites contested David's entrance into Jerusalem (II Sam. v. 6-8). Later a notable Jebusite, Araunah, or Ornan, sold his thrashing-floor to David for the erection of an altar (II Sam. xxiv. 18-24; I Chron. xxi. 18-25). The Jebusites as well as the other tribes that had not been exterminated were reduced to serfdom by Solomon (I Kings ix. 20, 21). In the expression of Zechariah," and Ekron will be as a Jebusite" (Zech. ix. 7), "Jebusite" must be taken to mean "Jerusalemite."


http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/8542-jebusites

Seems to justified by a Holy Book again

The Jebusites as well as the other tribes that had not been exterminated were reduced to serfdom by Solomon (I Kings ix. 20, 21)

For God to give them that particular piece of land would suggest that He didnt like His chosen people very much; its been a battlefield for almost every one of the past thirty-five centuries.

 

[teqniq]

For God to give them that particular piece of land would suggest that He didnt like His chosen people very much; its been a battlefield for almost every one of the past thirty-five centuries.

Ahem

 

[laptop]

Exodus 3:8
Exodus is a decent record of the first ethnic cleansing of the Land of Caanan by the Israelites
AS such it seems a fair statement of future intetent
Fair play the first timethey did buy the land for the Temple from the Jebusites and even still use the name for the Jebusite capital, Jerusalem

The Samaritans, on the other hand, portray the builders of the Jerusalem Temple as idolatrous splittists who falsified history to erase them and their Temple on Mount Gezirim.

See for example http://www.spiegel.de/international...lem-may-not-be-the-first-temple-a-827144.html

 

[DotCommunist]

Apprantly the idf plan is now to go after tunnels
Because hunting tunnels justifys blowing the shit out of everything anywhere.

are those the same tunnels to egypt that have already been flooded and current run through the water?

 

[Theisticle]

Chris Gunness (UNRWA) breaks down in tears during Al Jazeera Arabic interview:

 

[Blagsta]

Awful. Just awful. I'm sitting here crying. Fuck Israel.

 

[Vintage Paw]

"@AP
BREAKING: White House: US condemns Israel's shelling of UN school in Gaza Strip."

So WTF are they going to do about this massacre then? Absolutely fuck all I'd wager!

And then:

Mick Krever Verified account‏ @mickbk
At Israel’s request the US is re-supplying Israel Defense Forces with several categories of ammunition, CNN has learned. (@barbarastarrcnn.)

(how do you use the twitter embed code on here?)

 

[teqniq]

shared on FB

Chris Gunness (UNRWA) breaks down in tears during Al Jazeera Arabic interview:

 

[sheothebudworths]

^
Set me off again, too.
The absolute murderous nature of bombing displaced and wounded civilians in what should be places of sanctuary (as far as there can be any fucking 'sanctuary') is just horrific...and any government that doesn't outright condemn what the Israeli govt is doing, has blood on their hands. This is just awful.

 

[Vintage Paw]

With the time stamps it's even more poignant, I think.

 

[sheothebudworths]

With the time stamps it's even more poignant, I think.

The fucking CUNTS.

 

[Knotted]

This is a very good one.

 

[Knotted]

In an astonishing sign of Israel’s eagerness to end the Gaza assault on less than humiliating terms, the foreign ministry advised Netanyahu to initiate a UN Security Council resolution that would set favorable terms for Israel. Israel normally seeks to avoid any action by the UN.

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs...hal-palestinian-raids-gaza-sap-israeli-morale

 

[co-op]

That's pretty weak don't you think?

No I don't. You're forgetting the wider global picture post WW2. Egypt was the USSR's major regional player under Nasser and as one after another of the various tinpot Quisling post-colonial monarchies of the arab world were toppled - Iraq, Libya, Egypt etc etc there was a clear sense that the USSR would end up controlling the world's oil supply by gaining control of the entire region politically, not militarily. Anti-western, arab nationalist socialism - baathism - was a huge threat to US/western aims. Israel was the one absolute certainty for the USA in that region. Still is.

Your stuff about the Israel lobby making all this happen is the tail wagging the dog.

 

[Kalfindin]

Israelis celebrate the murder of children.
: "There's no school tomorrow,there's no children left in Gaza! Oleh!"

 

[rekil]

Top journalist Jon Snow just told Hamas guy that Israel is only killing people because Hamas keeps attacking them. (!)

This is a pathetic misrepresentation of Israel's strategy.

 

[sheothebudworths]

What the fuck can you say to that? Like a load of footy fans, celebrating a win

 

[likesfish]

are those the same tunnels to egypt that have already been flooded and current run through the water?

Apprantly there are tunnels that threaten argicultural communities
So anything in line of sight of an israeli farm is now a target.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/rockets-found-in-unrwa-school-for-third-time/

Schools and hospital now fair game Would have said hospital but they have already shot up the other ones.

 

[weepiper]

A show by an Israeli theatre group (part funded by the Israeli state) at the Edinburgh Fringe has been cancelled after its first day after protestors picketed it

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...p-have-show-cancelled-after-protest-1-3494010

“Underbelly and Incubator Theatre will work to identify other suitable venues for the show to perform at in Edinburgh.”

No chance. Every performance space in Edinburgh has been booked out for August for months.

 

[frogwoman]

Top journalist Jon Snow just told Hamas guy that Israel is only killing people because Hamas keeps attacking them. (!)

really?

 

[SpackleFrog]

Something will happen in the next 15 years. The demographic timebomb that the zionists fear will explode soon. It will be a minority brutally repressing a majority. Such situations have always ended in mass bloodshed.

Right, hey up - "demographic time bomb" - what's that about? Cos I've heard it from a lot of people that part of the reason for the mentality of Jewish Israeli's in regard to any kind of one state solution is that the relative birthrates of Israeli Jews and Palestinians means that they would soon be the minority in any one state formation. Now that to me sounds like a whole load of dodgy racist bollocks and I'm all sold on the neccessity of a two-state solution, at least in terms of rhetoric. Anyone else shed a little light? I've checked out birthrates and it seems like a lot of nonsense to me.

 

[rekil]

really?

Yes, it should be on the C4 site later.

 

[weepiper]

Also Scottish government is adding £500k of aid money to the UK's total

 

[Kalfindin]

A show by an Israeli theatre group (part funded by the Israeli state) at the Edinburgh Fringe has been cancelled after its first day after protestors picketed it

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...p-have-show-cancelled-after-protest-1-3494010



No chance. Every performance space in Edinburgh has been booked out for August for months.

Shocking that apartheid Israel is tolerated in any aspect. Its even worse then South Africa was.

 

[SpackleFrog]

my housemate said last night as a possible solution "why don't they (Israel) give them a bit of territory to the south and take a bit to the north and gradually push gaza out of Israel"

er ...

Used to know an acidhead that believed the situation in Gaza could and should be solved by "giving the Jews the Nevada desert". When I told him I didn't think the US would agree to this, he said that that was because they hadn't thought of it and when he explained it to them they'd get on it right away.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Yes, it should be on the C4 site later.

He was really very bullish about it.

On the one hand, I thought perhaps he was acting under pressure, after the complaints were made about his youtube video (complaints that reporters shouldn't give personal opinions like that - and indeed there are apparently ofcom rules in place which is why he had to put it on youtube and not on air). The typical reporter strategy is usually to feign rigorous questioning against people they don't necessarily want to question in that way, in order to provide a semblance of 'balance'.

But then I thought, the way he was doing it I actually believe he was being genuine in his anger. I can understand that anger - even though I believe it's misjudged to channel it at those who only exist as a result of oppression from a far more powerful oppressor. I can understand the frustration - his argument that if they only stopped firing they'd call Israel's bluff, in a way - and if it really was the case that Israel wants to kill them all and destroy Gaza then it would help the case against Israel if they continued doing so after Hamas stopped firing rockets. I think that's where his frustration came from. But, as I said, in the battle for hearts and minds, that sort of thing is better said behind closed doors, and condemnation should be reserved solely for the powerful oppressor.