Gaza under attack yet again.

[Mr.Bishie]

Israeli forces shoot, kill 12-year-old Palestinian boy near Hebron:

HEBRON (Ma'an) -- A 12-year old Palestinian boy was shot dead by Israeli soldiers while playing in front of his home in al-Fawwar refugee camp south of Hebron in the southern West Bank early Sunday.

Palestinian medical sources at Hebron's al-Ahli Hospital told Ma'an that Khalil Muhammad Ahmad al-Anati arrived at the hospital after being shot in the back.

http://maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=719498

 

[Doctor Carrot]

The support that the Palestinians have been getting from Latin America has really been increased during Israel's bombardment of Gaza

https://www.greenleft.org.au/node/57055



http://telesurtv.net/english/news/Bolivian-President-Calls-for-Israeli-Boycott-20140807-0060.html

Yes and I think this needs highlighting more. It shows how independent Latin American countries have become from their neighbour to the north and that they don't need to kowtow to Washington's line. If only us in Europe would do the same.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

@IsraeliPM: Prime Minister Netanyahu at the weekly cabinet meeting: "Operation Protective Edge is continuing. At no stage did we declare its conclusion » The operation will continue until its goal is met: restoring quiet for a long period. I said at its outset that it'll take time & patience » Israel will not negotiate under fire and will continue to take action to change the current reality and bring quiet to all of its citizens » We will stand together, united and determined, until we complete the work."

So this is permanent war then? Replace 'Operation Protective Edge' with 'The War on Terror' and you have exactly the same pronouncements. He knows he can't really do anything unless he goes into Gaza proper and not just the edge of it. He knows he can't do that though because that would mean civilian deaths going into the tens of thousands and soldier deaths going into the hundreds, neither of which will be tolerated internally or externally. Seems he's stuck in this position until he negotiates.

 

[TomUS]

i know one thing for sure, the arguments carted out on behalf of israel are so shallow, it is truly offensive: they keep on using burnt mantras about their military superiority, how there must needs be casualties of war (as if they have anything near the same credibility of the USA bombin nazis) and how ludicrous and stupid we are for sticking up for the underdogs. i'm sick of repeating my principles and reasoning with these stubborn robbers: as Jeremiah the prophet said of backslidden Israel "Let them go forth", and as Samuel the prophet said of David's brethren standing in front of him "the LORD hath not chosen this."

Suffering through the Israeli gov spokesmen spewing their BS gets extremely irritating.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

The Palestinian resistance has carried out three operations against the Israeli army Saturday night in the West Bank as the ceasefire between Israel and the Palestinians came to an end Friday, Al Araby Al Jadeed news agency reported.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/n...-operations-against-israeli-army-in-west-bank

 

[dylanredefined]

I wonder what would happen if a large, powerful country - somewhere like France, perhaps - were to decide they were going to break the blockade and ship supplies to Gaza. I guess Israel's strategy relies on everyone seeing them as the "mad dog" that'd bite anyone, but would they really risk the reaction to, for example, attacking a French warship?

(actually, I'm not sure where France stands on the whole Israel/Palestine thing, but they're not a NATO member AFAIK. Isn't it a shame that one of the most solid international consensuses there is seems to revolve around supporting Israel?)

No one with the capabilities to be able to push through an Israel blockade is going to try.
They have a capable Navy and Air force so unless they take out the Air force which would probably get a Nuclear response your looking at serious ship losses for little
gain.

 

[RhymnRzn]

But until we get pictures like this from NY, LA, SF etc then it's all pissing in the wind, sorry to be so depressing but IMO it's the truth.

aye, whizzing in the wind to wildfires has a better chance of putting them out compared to adding more hot air....

 

[ViolentPanda]

I have always been saddened and sickend at the actions of Israeli forces but at the moment I am as shocked at what is being allowed to happen as much as I was reviled by the sabra and shatila massacres.
It shows how little support the Palestinian people receive in the world. Shameful

The lack of support from other states boils down to a single word: Realpolitik.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Do you know how many have been seriously wounded?

And to be honest, I don't think the zionist entity want to kill the Ghazzans off. They need the Ghazzans to exist, albeit at a sub-human level to program fear into their racist society. The zionist entity is nothing without its paranoia.

There's also the fact that Gazans are required to exist, on some level, to provide cheap labour for Israeli capitalism, but of course would be more apt for the state of Israel if Gazans could be forced into some form of indentured servitude.
Do I think that eventually the state of Israel will be offering limited residence rights to Palestinians in exchange for a lifetime of servitude? I think it's possible, although I'm not yet sure that it's probable.

 

[MrSki]

 

[Mr.Bishie]

"@OccPalGaza
Worker repairing water facilities in Beit Hanoun was murdered in Israeli air strike."

 

[Grandma Death]

Spymaster Grandma Death Johnny Vodka iROBOT - would you just watch this, please?
45 minutes of your life.

Great interview. Very enlightening. Doesn't change my views on Hamas though. It did provide invaluable insight into what lead up to this incursion though-stuff I wasn't aware of.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

"@Farah_Gazan
We heard that there will be a ceasefire for 72hrs, so we became glad and in the end we discovered that that's a rumor."

 

[laptop]

(actually, I'm not sure where France stands on the whole Israel/Palestine thing,

Perfidiously

but they're not a NATO member AFAIK.

AFAIK France was always a member of NATO, but was for many years a sort of associate member - its forces not under NATO command.

After 43 Years, France to Rejoin NATO as Full Member (WaPo: 2009)[/QUOTE]

 

[teqniq]

This could have gone on any number of ME threads, in any event that nice Mrs. Clinton has done an interview for The Atlantic. Here are her thoughts on the ongoing events in Gaza:

Much of my conversation with Clinton focused on the Gaza war. She offered a vociferous defense of Israel, and of its prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, as well. This is noteworthy because, as secretary of state, she spent a lot of time yelling at Netanyahu on the administration's behalf over Israel’s West Bank settlement policy. Now, she is leaving no daylight at all between the Israelis and herself.

“I think Israel did what it had to do to respond to the rockets,” she told me. “Israel has a right to defend itself. The steps Hamas has taken to embed rockets and command-and-control facilities and tunnel entrances in civilian areas, this makes a response by Israel difficult.”

I asked her if she believed that Israel had done enough to prevent the deaths of children and other innocent people.

“[J]ust as we try to do in the United States and be as careful as possible in going after targets to avoid civilians,” mistakes are made, she said. “We’ve made them. I don’t know a nation, no matter what its values are—and I think that democratic nations have demonstrably better values in a conflict position—that hasn’t made errors, but ultimately the responsibility rests with Hamas.”

She went on to say that “it’s impossible to know what happens in the fog of war. Some reports say, maybe it wasn’t the exact UN school that was bombed, but it was the annex to the school next door where they were firing the rockets. And I do think oftentimes that the anguish you are privy to because of the coverage, and the women and the children and all the rest of that, makes it very difficult to sort through to get to the truth.”

She continued, “There’s no doubt in my mind that Hamas initiated this conflict. … So the ultimate responsibility has to rest on Hamas and the decisions it made.”

When I asked her about the intense international focus on Gaza, she was quick to identify anti-Semitism as an important motivating factor in criticism of Israel. “It is striking … that you have more than 170,000 people dead in Syria. … You have Russia massing battalions—Russia, that actually annexed and is occupying part of a UN member-state—and I fear that it will do even more to prevent the incremental success of the Ukrainian government to take back its own territory, other than Crimea. More than 1,000 people have been killed in Ukraine on both sides, not counting the [Malaysia Airlines] plane, and yet we do see this enormous international reaction against Israel, and Israel’s right to defend itself, and the way Israel has to defend itself. This reaction is uncalled for and unfair.”

She went on, “You can’t ever discount anti-Semitism, especially with what’s going on in Europe today. There are more demonstrations against Israel by an exponential amount than there are against Russia seizing part of Ukraine and shooting down a civilian airliner. So there’s something else at work here than what you see on TV.” Clinton also blamed Hamas for “stage-managing” the conflict. “What you see is largely what Hamas invites and permits Western journalists to report on from Gaza. It’s the old PR problem that Israel has. Yes, there are substantive, deep levels of antagonism or anti-Semitism towards Israel, because it’s a powerful state, a really effective military. And Hamas paints itself as the defender of the rights of the Palestinians to have their own state. So the PR battle is one that is historically tilted against Israel.”

Clinton also seemed to take an indirect shot at administration critics of Netanyahu, who has argued that the rise of Muslim fundamentalism in the Middle East means that Israel cannot, in the foreseeable future, withdraw its forces from much of the West Bank. “If I were the prime minister of Israel, you’re damn right I would expect to have control over security, because even if I’m dealing with [Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud] Abbas, who is 79 years old, and other members of Fatah, who are enjoying a better lifestyle and making money on all kinds of things, that does not protect Israel from the influx of Hamas or cross-border attacks from anywhere else. With Syria and Iraq, it is all one big threat. So Netanyahu could not do this in good conscience.”

So, we can expect continued, even a hardening of support for Israel if she attains the Presidency.

 

[Pickman's model]

This could have gone on any number of ME threads, in any event that nice Mrs. Clinton has done an interview for The Atlantic. Here are her thoughts on the ongoing events in Gaza:



So, we can expect continued, even a hardening of support for Israel if she attains the Presidency.

perhaps. but perhaps she just wants the votes and this is no indication of where she'd be if in the white house (although i think obama's probably ensured a republican win).

 

[laptop]

I wonder what would happen if a large, powerful country - somewhere like France, perhaps - were to decide they were going to break the blockade and ship supplies to Gaza.

Actually:

The Turkish pro-Palestinian organization IHH announced that its second Gaza flotilla will be launched soon - and will be afforded protection by the Turkish Navy, Israel's NRG reported on Sunday.

The group's chairman told local Turkish media that the mission, titled 'Freedom Flotilla II,' was in the process of finalizing the legal paperwork needed to commence on the trip, and would embark as soon as it got the necessary permissions.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.607508

There were, I recall, rumblings on these lines from actual Turkish government sources after the Mavi Marmara... but I think they were dissuaded. Probably their NATO membership was cast into question...

E2A: "Erdogan: Turkish navy to protect Gaza aid" 9 Sep 2011 http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2011/09/201198225646614806.html

 

[teqniq]

From Stop the war

Sign the letter condemning the Guardian advert branding those opposing Israel in Gaza as 'child killers'

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Euro-Mid Documents Israel’s Use of Human Shields in Gaza

http://www.euromid.org/en/article/597

 

[teqniq]

 

[Pickman's model]

"return to sender"

 

[Mr.Bishie]

72 hour ceasefire to begin at midnight - http://todayingaza.wordpress.com/20...ur-ceasefire-in-gaza-to-commence-at-midnight/

Still not confirmed from Israel.

@Channel4News
Palestinian officials have reportedly consented to a new 72-hour truce in Gaza from 9 tonight, although Israel has not yet responded

 

[Mr.Bishie]

‏@Channel4News
Israel accepts the new 72-hour Gaza ceasefire agreed earlier by Palestinian officials, and will return to talks on Monday if the truce holds.

 

[Pickman's model]

‏@Channel4News
Israel accepts the new 72-hour Gaza ceasefire agreed earlier by Palestinian officials, and will return to talks on Monday if the truce holds.

hmm... i think i won't hold my breath - won't last that long

 

[Mr.Bishie]

hmm... i think i won't hold my breath - won't last that long

It'll give the Zionists 3 days to re-arm & stock up I suppose

@HaniAbuishaiba
In the past 2 hours, Israel has intensified its airstrikes on Gaza and particularly targeting densely populated areas.

Seems to be the trend approaching ceasefires, up the ante.

 

[coley]

@IsraeliPM: Prime Minister Netanyahu at the weekly cabinet meeting: "Operation Protective Edge is continuing. At no stage did we declare its conclusion » The operation will continue until its goal is met: restoring quiet for a long period. I said at its outset that it'll take time & patience » Israel will not negotiate under fire and will continue to take action to change the current reality and bring quiet to all of its citizens » We will stand together, united and determined, until we complete the work."

It'll give the Zionists 3 days to re-arm & stock up I suppose



@HaniAbuishaiba
In the past 2 hours, Israel has intensified its airstrikes on Gaza and particularly targeting densely populated areas.

Seems to be the trend approaching ceasefires, up the ante.

More like they are trying to present themselves as the " good guys' and that line "will continue to take action to change the current reality" is beyond chilling.

 

[uk benzo]

So this is permanent war then? Replace 'Operation Protective Edge' with 'The War on Terror' and you have exactly the same pronouncements. He knows he can't really do anything unless he goes into Gaza proper and not just the edge of it. He knows he can't do that though because that would mean civilian deaths going into the tens of thousands and soldier deaths going into the hundreds, neither of which will be tolerated internally or externally. Seems he's stuck in this position until he negotiates.

He's a short sighted cunt with a superiority complex. Both a recipe for disaster. He believed that he could simply bomb the fuck out of Ghazza and its 'primitives' resulting in both the destruction of Hamas's guerilla capabilities and popular support. 5-weeks on, the zionist entity is no closer to mission accomplished.

 

[uk benzo]

This could have gone on any number of ME threads, in any event that nice Mrs. Clinton has done an interview for The Atlantic. Here are her thoughts on the ongoing events in Gaza:



So, we can expect continued, even a hardening of support for Israel if she attains the Presidency.

What a revolting human being. The way she's speaking you'd think she's running for prime minister of 'israel'.

 

[coley]

I was going to 'like' this but it would be inappropriate, it's a gut wrenching photo.

 

[weltweit]

I wouldn't let a child of mine that close to an unexploded bomb.