Game of thrones season 8 [contains spoilers]

[The Octagon]

Last thought (probably) - In a story filled with noble warriors such as Beric, Jorah, Jon, Brienne, Jaime (ish), and at least four of those wielding Valyrian Steel swords, not a single one is engaged in or has a brief fight with a White Walker before the army of the dead is droid-protocol killed?

Maybe it would have been fanservice, but it would have been decent fanservice.

 

[Orang Utan]

I think one of my problems is it seems he was barely even that. I have a terrible memory so could be forgetting stuff, but when did he actually do anything? He generally just seems to stand around, staring silently, and then every now and again will raise the dead on the battlefield. A strong move, no question, but it didn't really make him very intimidating, in the end. All this build up and he gets caught out by a sneak attack. We didn't even get a big ol' fight with Jon

He gave Arya the dagger she killed the Night King with

 

[Lord Camomile]

He gave Arya the dagger she killed the Night King with

I was talking about the Night King, not Bran.

There was all this portent and "arrrggggh, he's fucking terrifying", which is fine if it has a payoff, but it seemed like in the end, no he wasn't.

As I said, raising the dead, very strong move, but beyond that all the slow build up resulted in a bit of a damp squib.

 

[polly]

There was all this portent and "arrrggggh, he's fucking terrifying", which is fine if it has a payoff, but it seemed like in the end, no he wasn't.

I thought I was going to die last night my heart was beating so hard (Don't smoke skunk and watch GoT is the lesson) I find him really scary.

 

[Voley]

I wasn't stoned but my heart was going like the clappers in the buildup to the battle. The doom-laden music and then nothing happening for ages. Then the annihilation of the Dothraki just seen as lights disappearing on the horizon.

It was ace. I might watch it again tonight.

 

[Plumdaff]

I think he was scary. I was scared.

He was winning! Easily! They were utterly fucked!

Had Arya not been there he would have won. We may be disappointed that it came down to a snatching victory from the jaws of defeat but the massive battles in GoT always work out that way. Hell, the massive battles in nearly all fiction always work out that way.

 

[Lord Camomile]

I wasn't stoned but my heart was going like the clappers in the buildup to the battle. The doom-laden music and then nothing happening for ages. Then the annihilation of the Dothraki just seen as lights disappearing on the horizon.

It was ace. I might watch it again tonight.

Yeah, I quite enjoyed the build up, to be fair.

They also seemed to be really telegraphing Greyworm dying, although I assume that was intentional to play with our expectations.

 

[wayward bob]

But it was also to demonstrate that Jon is a Targaerian: only Targaerians can ride dragons. Or at least, only a true Targaerion can ride a dragon at first attempt. It was a clumsy cringey scene but it deftly gave us two things: the dragons accept Jon, and Daenerys trusts him as her consort. So it’s a set up for him usurping her rule.

nah she's gonna do away with him...

 

[rekil]

What if bran is the baddie and the night king was merely much maligned?

It's all about NK's director of communications failing to convey his brand and core values then.

 

[Lord Camomile]

I think he was scary. I was scared.

He was winning! Easily! They were utterly fucked!

This is my point though, was he scary/winning, or was it just the seemingly insurmountable odds of facing a massive undead army? What did the Night King himself do that was scary, beyond stalking around with a moody look?

Had Arya not been there he would have won. We may be disappointed that it came down to a snatching victory from the jaws of defeat but the massive battles in GoT always work out that way. Hell, the massive battles in nearly all fiction always work out that way.

I'm not disappointed it was snatching victory from the jaws of defeat, it was always going to be that, I just don't think the Night King himself was actually shown to be a particular threat. His army, absolutely. Him..?

 

[Voley]

They also seemed to be really telegraphing Greyworm dying, although I assume that was intentional to play with our expectations.

I was surprised he's still alive too. The huffing and puffing he did before the battle seemed to signal the end. I do hope him and Missandei get to retire to their nice butterfly island when this is over.

 

[joustmaster]

This is my point though, was he scary/winning, or was it just the seemingly insurmountable odds of facing a massive undead army? What did the Night King himself do that was scary, beyond stalking around with a moody look?

besides raising and controlling an army of the dead, raising the freshy killed "goodies" and making them fight for him, riding around on a zombie dragon, wiping out most of winterfell and its surrounding areas, destroying the freefolk north of the wall?

What would have made you happy? If he turned out to be freddy krugger?

 

[tommers]

besides raising and controlling an army of the dead, raising the freshy killed "goodies" and making them fight for him, riding around on a zombie dragon, wiping out most of winterfell and its surrounding areas, destroying the freefolk north of the wall?

What would have made you happy? If he turned out to be freddy krugger?

Don't forget shooting down a dragon with a javelin.

And then turning it into an undead dragon with blue flames and using that to destroy the millennia old unbreachable wall.

 

[wayward bob]

Ser Brienne. That was lovely. I do suspect that means she's very dead next episode.

mr b won a significant amount of crappy crypto on this matter last ep

 

[Lord Camomile]

besides raising and controlling an army of the dead, raising the freshy killed "goodies" and making them fight for him, riding around on a zombie dragon, wiping out most of winterfell and its surrounding areas, destroying the freefolk north of the wall?

Yeah, all fair points, but that feels like he was being set up as a tactical/existential threat rather than a forebody, fighting threat. The original point I was him being likened to an 'Ice Terminator', which I don't think he was.

Don't forget shooting down a dragon with a javelin.

Yeah, fair, that showed more skill. But then he missed the second time

 

[Steel Icarus]

Hitler was probably quite crap in a square-go.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Hitler was probably quite crap in a square-go.

And so probably wouldn't have been described as a Mustachioed Terminator.

Although propaganda does have a tendency to lean hyperbolic, I'll grant you.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Ohhhhhhh, wait. Except Ice King did emerge completely unharmed from a big fiery mess, just like the T1000.

Ok, everyone fuck off

 

[DotCommunist]

As if he was going to be the Ice Terminator. Theres always a way to one-shot the big baddie in fantasy&sf

 

[Steel Icarus]

Achilles etc

 

[Ranbay]

Achilles etc

Oh fuck did he die also? missed that.......

 

[Fez909]

He also turned the North into a Nuclear Winter-looking wasteland. Pretty fucking powerful, tbh.

 

[rekil]

They also seemed to be really telegraphing Greyworm dying, although I assume that was intentional to play with our expectations.

Did he leave all his mates on the nasty side of the barricade thing. One minute they're there, the next they're not. More 'fuckit, that'll do' nonsense.

 

[xenon]

It would’ve been good if he’d said something, one word even

But turned out he sounded like Keith Lemon. .

 

[Orang Utan]

There's only one dragon left now, right?

 

[tommers]

There's only one dragon left now, right?

No! TWO!!!

 

[Cloo]

Next episode/s might be fall out from this, and Jon/Dany schism while Cersei sits in Kings Landing, receiving ravens while drinking all the Dornish wine and going 'LOL! LOOOOOOSERS!'

 

[Orang Utan]

No! TWO!!!

Two were killed last night. Viserion was killed again when the Night King was killed and Rhaegal got swarmed by the Dead, so only Drogon is left. Who knows though? It was all so dark

 

[Lord Camomile]

Next episode/s might be fall out from this, and Jon/Dany schism while Cersei sits in Kings Landing, receiving ravens while drinking all the Dornish wine and going 'LOL! LOOOOOOSERS!'

But Bran is all the ravens now!

Excellent tactic, removing long distance communication. The triumph is in infrastructure! Nerds control the world!

 

[DotCommunist]

Rhaegal got swarmed by the Dead

trailer for next week has two dragons