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Game of thrones season 8 [contains spoilers]

I feel like as Arya has killed the night King she probably won't have any more significant kills. I think she should retire to Bravos and set up her own training school.
 
S☼I said:
She's gonna stay at Winterfell selling oysters clams and cockles
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Gsv wants her to end sailing off to discover new countries with her girlfriend. I want her to be offered power and riches and go 'Nah, I prefer going around killing people' and going off to be an assassin
 
Cloo said:
Gsv wants her to end sailing off to discover new countries with her girlfriend.
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Arya says this in season six but the girlfriend but they have confused Arya with Alissa Farmann's story, she wanted to sail west of Westeros and was in a relationship with a Targaryen queen Rhaena Targaryen, the relationship went sour and she stole three dragons eggs that she sold in Pentosh to buy a boat to sail west of Westeros, the boat she bought was called Sun Chacer, the eggs, well three dragon eggs in Pentosh do turn up in the stories later. /geek.
 
binka said:
Also terrible strategy to allow the army of the dead to march all the way to Winterfell unhindered. They had air superiority so should have used that to their advantage:
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That's one of the points made here. Lions led by donkeys and one especially irritating child.

The Battle of Winterfell: A Tactical Analysis

While enjoying a two-to-one superiority in air assets, Daenerys attempts to use her dragons as multirole platforms, a risky move that means her forces cannot maximize their firepower on one single mission. This will eventually translate to ground commanders being denied close air support when they need it most.

Both Daenerys and Jon Snow fly initial sorties over allied lines, but neither attempts to conduct reconnaissance of enemy lines. Nor do they attempt to initiate first strike capabilities against the forces of the Night King.
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Nerds and soldiers on the point about the waste of cavalry.

Game of Thrones Battle of Winterfell: Two military experts explain why Jon and Dany’s strategy sucked

The way they filmed it was cool, but if the Dothraki were heavy cavalry in armored war horses like knights, and they had that hard-hitting shock power, then it’d make some sense.

But the Dothraki are a lighter, mobile cavalry, so charging them toward the middle of the Night King’s troops is not how you should use them. You’d use them on the wings.

So, I’ve got to agree with you: There’s not really a tactical reason for why you would use light cavalry to charge straight into a numerically superior force of infantry that really can absorb the momentum of the charge.
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The Dothraki had success charging into adversaries like that in the past because they were charging into living humans who are subject to terror and fear, leading to easier deaths. That wasn’t the case here.
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fishfinger said:
Bron will shoot Tyrion. Jaime will deflect the shot with his metal hand and Cercei will be struck between the eyes.
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Thanks mate. You've just ruined the ending :facepalm: <<<<< That's Cercei with the bolt in her eye :D <<<<< That's Tyrion cracking open the Dournish wine :oops: <<<<<< That's Jaime performing the caesarian section on Cersei :thumbs: That's Bron singing Unchained Melody with Jon Snow as the credits roll.


 
copliker said:
That's one of the points made here. Lions led by donkeys and one especially irritating child.

The Battle of Winterfell: A Tactical Analysis



Nerds and soldiers on the point about the waste of cavalry.

Game of Thrones Battle of Winterfell: Two military experts explain why Jon and Dany’s strategy sucked
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I think its one of the things about got that annoys me the most - they put so much effort into giving it an authentic feel (yeah I know dragons) yet the battles always seem so inept with two sides just crashing into each other with no thought for strategy. They should have had a series of fire trenches and obstacles much further out with infantry behind that with archers and trebuchet behind them. Once the army of the dead was held up the dragons could have destroyed most of them in pretty short order
 
copliker said:
That's one of the points made here. Lions led by donkeys and one especially irritating child.

The Battle of Winterfell: A Tactical Analysis



Nerds and soldiers on the point about the waste of cavalry.

Game of Thrones Battle of Winterfell: Two military experts explain why Jon and Dany’s strategy sucked
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Lol, one for the idiots to lap up.
but the allied commanders did not put it to proper use: screening the allied lines and gaining active intelligence on the enemy.
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I think our mate might want to consider that these are not Humvees with night scopes and radios. Christsakes who swallows this shit. Its horses in the dark.
"Gather intelligence about the vast hoard of the dead, we need to know which of their units are deployed where then send a raven or something."
More over:
Put everyone behind the fire pit and you have a siege and no ability to deploy your cavalry. You are dead from starvation. If they do attack and you ignite the fire pit, they simply pull back and wait for it to burn out.
Had the coalition of the living actually followed the fundamentals of engagement area development, they might have had a fighting chance.
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The dweebs on Wired think they are being let in on some hot military thinking. Couple of buzzwords and some handwaving.

For those who are not swallowing that silliness:
There is nothing they could have done, they had no where near enough "missiles" aka arrows to have made a dent, the trebuchets were almost never used against infantry because they were so slow and inaccurate, that is just fantasy TV nonsense so where you put them makes no difference. The undead are a giant mass of bodies, there is nowhere to maneuver any cavalry. No where to dodge them around or anything. They had one hope, being able to break their lines with a charge. If that did not work (and it did not) they were useless . As they did not break up their lines, a dragon could not kill them then the only vague hope for Winterfell was killing the Night King. Twats trying to handwave some mystery deployment of cavalry or something, whatever. Back to your computer games.

Edited, off course urban 75 swallows this shit.... lol.
 
ferrelhadley said:
Lol, one for the idiots to lap up.

I think our mate might want to consider that these are not Humvees with night scopes and radios. Christsakes who swallows this shit. Its horses in the dark.
"Gather intelligence about the vast hoard of the dead, we need to know which of their units are deployed where then send a raven or something."
More over:
Put everyone behind the fire pit and you have a siege and no ability to deploy your cavalry. You are dead from starvation. If they do attack and you ignite the fire pit, they simply pull back and wait for it to burn out.
The dweebs on Wired think they are being let in on some hot military thinking. Couple of buzzwords and some handwaving.

For those who are not swallowing that silliness:
There is nothing they could have done, they had no where near enough "missiles" aka arrows to have made a dent, the trebuchets were almost never used against infantry because they were so slow and inaccurate, that is just fantasy TV nonsense so where you put them makes no difference. The undead are a giant mass of bodies, there is nowhere to maneuver any cavalry. No where to dodge them around or anything. They had one hope, being able to break their lines with a charge. If that did not work (and it did not) they were useless . As they did not break up their lines, a dragon could not kill them then the only vague hope for Winterfell was killing the Night King. Twats trying to handwave some mystery deployment of cavalry or something, whatever. Back to your computer games.

Edited, off course urban 75 swallows this shit.... lol.
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I agree with you about cavalry but disagree on the fire pit and other obstacles; the fire pit they did use slowed them down - once that had happened then the two dragons could have destroyed the bulk of that army relatively quickly. Mind you they should have done that north of the wall in the last season instead of doing all that fannying around they love so much
 
JimW said:
I'm just waiting for donkyboy's grovelling apology :D

The whole battle plan was utter pants really.
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I miss Rob Stark. He knew strategy.

Whoever planned the battle of Winterfell was on crack. They tried to justify it with the cut off the head and the body will die plan.
Weaken our inner defenses by fighting outside the walls.
Then placed Bran as bait in a place which basically meant the plan was "Everyone die before we let the Night King reach him and spring the trap".
And then...

What was the then? Because Arya wasn't the plan. There wasn't a trap.
 
spitfire said:
As a student of the Sharpe books and now into the Flashman series I consider myself an authority on these matters and also found their tactics lacking.

The unsullied were completely wasted with their big stabby things that were best for use on cavalry. Fighting off hordes of infantry needs slashy big swords.

Sending the Dothraki off like that made great telly but fuck me, what the fuck? Charge of the on fire brigade. Oh.....

Also who builds a castle with 20ft walls?

/armchair general
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The unsullied are trained in two swords and three spears or something. I was with you in thinking ditch the spears. Use them against the first charge then switch to swords.
Fire, beheading and valerian steel work against wights. Stabby tings don't.
Obsidian doesn't either in the books. Kryptonite for others only.
 
Danaerys becomes the Night Queen. Everyone dies.

I don't know how this happens, but she wears slightly similar colour clothes to the Night King and when squinting at a poor quality download could be mistaken for him.

Science. :thumbs:
 
Given that they knew fire is the most effective way to deal with the zombies they could have put in a bit more effort on that front. Such as a much wider moat/ trench/ barrier.to set on fire than the pitiful one they constructed, which only took a dozen or two bodies to bridge over.

Actually, what about that highly explosive green stuff that was used very successfully to blow up an entire armada a few seasons ago? I’m sure if they’d made a few enquiries they would have soon met some bloke in a seedy inn who would have known a guy who could supply a few barrels of the stuff for the right price...
 
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