Game of thrones season 8 [contains spoilers]

[neonwilderness]

Well they’ve f**ked that right up, says George RR Martin

GAME of Thrones author George RR Martin has confirmed that the latest episode of the TV adaptation has buggered it completely.

Martin, whose middle initials are a tribute to Countdown’s Rachel Riley, admitted it was his own fault for not finishing the books in time but never imagined they would get the show this wrong.

He said: “What the fuck did they do that for? They’ve got three episodes left.

“No spoilers obviously, but I envisaged that particular conflict not being resolved until the very end. Being as it’s what the whole thing was clearly about from the start.

“Have they just got that bit over with quickly so they can go off in their own direction? Is Jon Snow going to form a jazz quintet now? Are the next three hours going to return to the core values of the show and be entirely tits?

“I can’t wait for everyone to read the books, where I do all this properly and don’t just curtail it early because there isn’t the budget and pretend it’s a shocking twist.

“Then again, I don’t know if I can be arsed finishing writing them now they’ve ruined it. Just imagine it for yourselves.”

 

[smmudge]

I don't want them killing people for the sake of it, but the fact that they teased it with repeated shots of our named characters surrounded and practically being swarmed, before cutting back to see they made it out somehow (but without justifying it) just screams of nervousness and cheap drama. Jon was surrounded by hundreds of reanimated wights and the Night King, next time we see him he's running into Winterfell to try and kill the Ice Dragon, there's no sense of where everyone is on the battlefield and what they're trying to do.

Yes that was annoying. Loads of people should have died that way, Brienne, Sam, Jaime, Tormund (is he still alive?), Jon, Gendry, were those zombies even trying to kill them?

 

[Lord Camomile]

Mistakes used to have consequences on this show, that's what made it stand out initially. Ned Stark makes a mistake and pays with his head, no last minute saves. Same with Robb, Renly, the Tyrells, etc.

Exactly.

the fact that they teased it with repeated shots of our named characters surrounded and practically being swarmed, before cutting back to see they made it out somehow (but without justifying it) just screams of nervousness and cheap drama. Jon was surrounded by hundreds of reanimated wights and the Night King, next time we see him he's running into Winterfell to try and kill the Ice Dragon

EXACTLY. Whether good or bad, it feels like since they ran out of GRRM material convenience has replaced logic and consistency. That goes for big things like consequences for actions, and little things like the oft-maligned magic teleporting. GRRM's world felt real precisely because, for all the magic and mysticism, the logistics and consequences worked pretty much like our world. You want to get from City A to City B on horse? That's going to take you a couple of weeks. You want to double-cross a murdering cunt? You're probably not going to get out of that unscathed.

It's what pissed me off about LotR - too many "this is our last stand, a final battle against an insurmountable foe we have no chance of survi... oh, we won and we're all still alive". Except Boromir, obviously.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Loads of people should have died that way, Brienne... were those zombies even trying to kill them?

Feel like Brienne in particular constantly seemed seconds away from being overcome. Not that she was in any more dire situation than any of the others, and she's obviously one of the most capable, but just the way she was acting it really felt like "oh fuck, she's a goner".

 

[Ranbay]

I haven't read the thread but has anyone figured out what the fucking point of Bran is yet?

 

[Ranbay]

Apparently

 

[DotCommunist]

Except Boromir, obviously.

another goodie turned bad who dies for atonement.

 

[Shechemite]

What if bran is the baddie and the night king was merely much maligned?

 

[Shechemite]

They’d all be fucked then

 

[friedaweed]

Best part of last night was watching the wife hiding behind a blanket for nearly 80 minutes

and yeah the image quality on HD was shite too.

 

[flypanam]

No comment about last nights show, but I think Danearys is a going to be killed off soon.

 

[polly]

What if bran is the baddie and the night king was merely much maligned?

I know who I'd rather go for a pint with tbh

 

[Steel Icarus]

I guess the only bit not properly cleared up is what they were doing with crasters sons. But I guess that was just breeding more white walkers.

Craster's boys were what he used to make his generals. Get 'em early, train them to wield them big poles and grow white mullets and beards and shit.

 

[polly]

Apparently

Thank you! Big fucking yawn but at least it provides some sense of purpose and plot.

 

[joustmaster]

Craster's boys were what he used to make his generals. Get 'em early, train them to wield them big poles and grow white mullets and beards and shit.

Yeah. Seems right.
I wouldn't want to come across a toddler version, mind.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Yeah. Seems right.
I wouldn't want to come across a toddler version, mind.

We saw it way back, BigNK got a baby and made its eyes blue while surrounded by other generals.
"I name you...Geoff"
"Er, boss...we've already got a Geoff"
"Oh, ok. Ice Mullet, then"
*Four or five Generals clear throats*

 

[friedaweed]

No comment about last nights show, but I think Danearys is a going to be killed off soon.

Quite right imo. Her dragons were shit last night, a bit like an Argentinian Air Force. Mostly missing in action.

 

[The Octagon]

Fair play to Lyanna Mormont getting some glory (and a nasty death), that was fairly well done. Should have been Tormund Giantsbane fighting it though, just a thought

Dolorous Edd (Fuck you Samwell Tarly ) and Jehr Bear the only others I recall biting the dust.

EDIT: Shit forgot Theon, he had a nice close out to his arc too.

 

[Shechemite]

Danaerys will go full evil and be killed for her own good

 

[Shechemite]

Danaerys will form an alliance with Cersei and Jon will win the iron throne with the help of the iron bank/golden company.

 

[Shechemite]

Ed Sheehan will make a second cameo

 

[joustmaster]

Danaerys will form an alliance with Cersei and Jon will win the iron throne with the help of the iron bank/golden company.

A dragon each inthe divorce?

 

[Shechemite]

Theyre all fucked

 

[Shechemite]

Basically GoT is the prequel to Kramer vs Kramer

 

[T & P]

And surprise surprise, the misogynists/ alt-right brigade are outraged that a female got to kill the Night King...

Some men are furious after Arya Stark's heroic Game of Thrones moment

 

[Ranbay]

I'm on probation man died

 

[Lord Camomile]

Thinking about it a bit more, a lot of the action was quite generic. The Arya library sneaking was good, but apart from that it did seem quite "just keep slashing at random and indistinguishable bad folk".

I suppose maybe that's what a battle is like, but... meh.

Agreed that Battle of the Bastards was better.

 

[Plumdaff]

I know who I'd rather go for a pint with tbh

Tbh the best bit of this season so far was us going for a pint with Tyrion, Brienne, Tormund et al in episode 2. Three more feature length episodes of that lot getting trollied please.

 

[Lord Camomile]

And surprise surprise, the misogynists/ alt-right brigade are outraged that a female got to kill the Night King...

Some men are furious after Arya Stark's heroic Game of Thrones moment

Surprised (but not that surprised) at the Mary Sue comments. I was always a bit harrumphy about Rey in Star Wars (which this has been likened to), but Arya's arc and training has been going on since Series One. From her training with Syrio Forel to her time with the Hound and her training at the House of Black and White, almost all she's been fucking doing since we've known her has been training to kill.

And the fact it was her and not one of the 'main' characters (although I'd also argue that she is among that clan) is pretty true to GoT, which (until recently, at least...) has stayed away from that classic 'main protagonist hero' formula.

Of course, I know it's not really about that...

(I do feel Ezra Klein is maybe done a bit unfairly by being included here - I think there are certain questions about how Arya got from the library to the Godswood and knew what Melisandra was telling her, but that's no worse than all of the other questions raised by this and previous episodes)

 

[polly]

And surprise surprise, the misogynists/ alt-right brigade are outraged that a female got to kill the Night King...

Some men are furious after Arya Stark's heroic Game of Thrones moment

The irony of this is that since the first episode Arya has been a character whose skill as a fighter has been underestimated because she's a girl. (When they were trying to train the aforementioned BRAN to shoot a bow and arrow)