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Game of thrones season 8 [contains spoilers]

moochedit said:
The Reddit lot are just sulking because their fan theory about bran being the night king didn't come true.:D
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Is that the ASOIF sub? Not sure I saw it much on that Sub, but I only read it the day after a show. I wondered if it's as that sub is particularly focused on the books.

To be fair the Reddit for The Vikings is also pretty similar for the last few series. I do find that it infulences me once people start to point out flaws.
 
ferrelhadley said:
too much plot armour
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This, really.

The writing's been poor for a few seasons now, and I'm pretty bored of the big battles etc, and predictable nature of it all. But also too invested in seeing the outcome to give up on it so close to the end.

I really thought everyone was going to die and that's the most excited I've felt about this show for absolutely ages. It would've been the biggest plot twist in history if everyone had died. I was wracking my brain wondering how the fuck it would end if everyone died.

The bit when the Night King brought everyone back, I thought that's it. They're proper fucked. Nope. Typical last second rescue. Multiple of them, in fact.

Also, how many times did Jon manage to hide behind a wall at just the right moment to avoid the blue dragon fire?

I think the majority of the cast will stay alive now. Maybe one more 'big' character death. Tyrion probably. I guess some on Cersei's side will have to go, too...

Despite all the above, I did enjoy it. For a TV episode, it was ridiculously good. We've just been spoiled lately with so much good television that something as epic as last night can be disappointing.
 
DotCommunist said:
I've been trying to think of a large fantasy epic where the final battle was as satisfying as the journey (all 20 odd books of Wheel of Time, no...) and I am drawing nothing. There's an inevitability to the final showdown between light and dark. *spoilers* light always defeats dark against improbable odds, and the goodie who betrayed? he suffers then dies (or is mortally wounded but survives) at the end for redemption. Betrayal is only redeemable through sacrifice you see. No remission without the blood, brethren, no remission without the blood.
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Return of the Jedi
 
I was disappointed with it to be honest. I think the writers caved in to fan service. I mean what was the whole point of the NK then?

Building it up for 8 seasons to end like that is just a massive anti-climax. I have no issue with him being killed but I want to know what the fuck he is all about and why he needs to be killed, there’s purpose and desire then to see him being killed. They’ll probably have Bran explain the whole thing the next episode to tie up loose ends but that’s just exposition. There’s no intrigue anymore so I just don’t give a shit now.

If it was me I would’ve shortened the last few episodes down, two episodes for the Battle at Winterfell where the NK kills everyone. Then one episode for him going down to King’s Landing and defeating Cersei and then one last episode of the NK and Wights just wandering aimlessly around Westeros looking for cunts to kill. That would be epic, dark and nihilistic.

But no, we have this and we are where we are. I’m hoping for some really good twist to bring this back but I’m not holding my breath.
 
N_igma said:
I was disappointed with it to be honest. I think the writers caved in to fan service. I mean what was the whole point of the NK then?

Building it up for 8 seasons to end like that is just a massive anti-climax. I have no issue with him being killed but I want to know what the fuck he is all about and why he needs to be killed, there’s purpose and desire then to see him being killed. They’ll probably have Bran explain the whole thing the next episode to tie up loose ends but that’s just exposition. There’s no intrigue anymore so I just don’t give a shit now.

If it was me I would’ve shortened the last few episodes down, two episodes for the Battle at Winterfell where the NK kills everyone. Then one episode for him going down to King’s Landing and defeating Cersei and then one last episode of the NK and Wights just wandering aimlessly around Westeros looking for cunts to kill. That would be epic, dark and nihilistic.

But no, we have this and we are where we are. I’m hoping for some really good twist to bring this back but I’m not holding my breath.
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Maybe the new prequel series will explain more about the night king and white walkers?
 
I think it's great that this programme still confounds us. Of all the theories I've heard, I didn't hear anyone saying they thought the Night King would die in this episode. Grand finale? Sure. Win entirely? Outside chance. But not now.

It's so different to the usual formula for big budget telly/movies I'm still not entirely convinced that he won't resurrect somehow and be back for another scrap when he's licked his wounds.

Genuinely got no idea where it'll go now and I love it. My fav thing on TV for years.
 
Like N_igma says, it's gotta be pretty unlikely that he's been an ever present deadly force for this long only to be offed by a clean knife switch. Arya now has him as a mask I would assume which could play out the NK touching Bran scenario. And there's nothing to say that the NK is THE king. He could just be a minion for someone more powerful and as army leader his death resulted in the death of his troops.
 
Well the Night King and him basically have the same power. They can both take over things and command them.

The difference is that the Night King does this to create an unending immortal army slavering for brains and Bran does it to have a bit of a fly about.

But I guess that might be something that comes out later.
 
I think if we were going to have a Bran revelation we'd have had it by now. The problem is having showrunners less interested in the mythology side of the show than GRRM and then him not finishing the books. So they have finished the magic side without the detail I'm sure a lot of fans were hoping for. I think of Bran as more like a containing device than a character, tbh, and I never thought there would be much more to the Night King than he was a magic Ice Terminator.
 
Plumdaff said:
I never thought there would be much more to the Night King than he was a magic Ice Terminator.
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I think one of my problems is it seems he was barely even that. I have a terrible memory so could be forgetting stuff, but when did he actually do anything? He generally just seems to stand around, staring silently, and then every now and again will raise the dead on the battlefield. A strong move, no question, but it didn't really make him very intimidating, in the end. All this build up and he gets caught out by a sneak attack. We didn't even get a big ol' fight with Jon :(
 
polly said:
Yeah, but I've been watching this show for years now. If he's going to have some kind of revelation in the last couple of hours it's going to have to be bloody good. Such a little snot.
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I keep thinking he's kind of directing things but not letting on. Probably for the snotty reasons you mention. Like he seemed to know Arya was about to pop up? Perhaps? I dunno.

I'm quite glad my inner voice doesn't always vocalise itself though. My internal dialogue when the Night King was bearing down on him went:
'Don't just sit there !!!'
'He's in a wheelchair you heartless bastard.' :oops:
 
mojo pixy said:
I was disappointed that the Night King touching Bran in a vision seemed to have no bearing on the eventual outcome. It was just a random scary event, with no import beyond the atmos.
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Bran talked about it last week. He has the mark and the night king can find him through it. A homing beacon on the night kings main prize.

N_igma said:
I was disappointed with it to be honest. I think the writers caved in to fan service. I mean what was the whole point of the NK then?

Building it up for 8 seasons to end like that is just a massive anti-climax. I have no issue with him being killed but I want to know what the fuck he is all about and why he needs to be killed, there’s purpose and desire then to see him being killed. They’ll probably have Bran explain the whole thing the next episode to tie up loose ends but that’s just exposition. There’s no intrigue anymore so I just don’t give a shit now.
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They were pretty clear about it. He's a first man turned in to a weapon by the children of the forest. Designed to help them in a war. But it back fires and he goes on a killing spree wanting to wipe out everything. The three eyed raven being the prize of everything as he has all humanity's knowledge.

I guess the only bit not properly cleared up is what they were doing with crasters sons. But I guess that was just breeding more white walkers.
 
He did nearly win though. He had beaten Jon Snow. He just hadn't reckoned with there being a faceless assassin kicking about.
 
cybershot said:
A lot of people complaining on twitter that the sky Atlantic HD showing was poor quality?

Downloaded it myself and thought it was perfectly fine considering it was quite dark, but then I’m the nerd that calibrates the TV so that blacks are as black as can be.

Was the sky version that bad or just a case of people with 4K tv’s leaving it on the default ultra bright and auto motion plus settings and ending up with a crap juddering experience?
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Snow and Ash falling in the sky really fucks with video compression. It makes it closer to static noise which is impossible to compress as its random. Tom Scott did a great youtube video on it.

I can see how that could have effected some viewer.
 
Voley said:
I keep thinking he's kind of directing things but not letting on. Probably for the snotty reasons you mention. Like he seemed to know Arya was about to pop up? Perhaps? I dunno.

I'm quite glad my inner voice doesn't always vocalise itself though. My internal dialogue when the Night King was bearing down on him went:
'Don't just sit there !!!'
'He's in a wheelchair you heartless bastard.' :oops:
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I had the same feelings about his lack of action in the fight :D:oops:

I dunno either. I didn't get that he'd predicted Arya but I guess he did if he's all knowing etc. Just tolerated his boring, boring storyline since series 1 and was hoping I'd put in the hours for a good reason, but it does seem increasingly unlikely. Having said that, I'm quite glad he didn't save the day last night because bleuuurrgh.
 
Impressive effort, but ultimately that was a massive letdown. Visually some great shots, music brilliant as always, but plot and characters disregarded for the most part.

Mistakes used to have consequences on this show, that's what made it stand out initially. Ned Stark makes a mistake and pays with his head, no last minute saves. Same with Robb, Renly, the Tyrells, etc.

I don't want them killing people for the sake of it, but the fact that they teased it with repeated shots of our named characters surrounded and practically being swarmed, before cutting back to see they made it out somehow (but without justifying it) just screams of nervousness and cheap drama. Jon was surrounded by hundreds of reanimated wights and the Night King, next time we see him he's running into Winterfell to try and kill the Ice Dragon, there's no sense of where everyone is on the battlefield and what they're trying to do.

I don't have a problem with Arya being the one to deal the final blow, or even the Night King being taken out in a relatively quick and 'easy' way, but it didn't feel like we as an audience earned it to be honest.

Frustrating, I hope they've got something up their sleeves in the next 3 episodes or they'll have massively fumbled it at the end, which would be a shame.
 
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