Galloway returns to Parliament in sensational win in Bradford West - Labour/Coalition smashed

[where to]

As anybody got any confirmation on this "win in every ward" claim? It's a quite a significant fact if true

is it actually possible to know for sure? are votes counted separately in such a way as to give these figures?

 

[belboid]

As anybody got any confirmation on this "win in every ward" claim? It's a quite a significant fact if true

ward breakdowns dont tend to come out for a few days - and not necesarilly at all, its a council decision

 

[articul8]

I didn't say the swing wasn't 37% - I was saying raw swing data is misleading.

Whether they voted Galloway or didn't vote - Labour needs these people back and can't rely on an automatic swing in their favour,.

 

[Divisive Cotton]

newsnight might be worth watching tonight

i presume they'll lead with it

 

[moochedit]

As anybody got any confirmation on this "win in every ward" claim? It's a quite a significant fact if true

Do they release the ward results for parliamentary elections? i've never heard of them doing that before?

 

[SpineyNorman]

He nicked it from Doug Henwood, or the 'sado monetarist' bit anyway.

Wasn't that one of Denis Healey's? It's what he called Thatcher's economic policy in her first term isn't it?

 

[Divisive Cotton]

is it actually possible to know for sure? are votes counted separately in such a way as to give these figures?

the candidates are given this information but it's not something that is given directly to the public

 

[belboid]

they dont officially release them, but they are all counted ward by ward, and recorded as such. So they tend to become available.

 

[butchersapron]

1) Labour needs to establish a clear difference on the cuts re the coalition
2) Labour needs to show that where it runs local councils it is resisting the cuts
3) Labour needs to demonstrate it understands the catastrophic nature of the Blair/Brown foreign policy by calling for withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan

etc.

Good for labour - the rest of us? The people you need to 'show'? To 'demonstrate'? PR cunt.

 

[butchersapron]

1) Labour needs to establish a clear difference on the cuts re the coalition
2) Labour needs to show that where it runs local councils it is resisting the cuts
3) Labour needs to demonstrate it understands the catastrophic nature of the Blair/Brown foreign policy by calling for withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan

etc.

1) Isn't true
2) You're not
3) It can't

Good job

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Just heard a classic on the radio. Bradford uni Labour party society leader:

'It was great to see so many students going out and voting. It doesn't matter who they voted for. Over time they will become more politically aware.'

 

[DotCommunist]

There was some EDL (like one loud one, his gopher, and another admirer who wasn't wearing the T-Shirt) in a pub in my home town the other week. Probably the proliest pub in a very proley town, yet most people were just rolling their eyes at what they saw as typical dickheads. And these are the sort of punters who pass as casual racist types.

I'm in a w/c town of 15,000 (iirc). They've returned a tory so far on the right rump of the Conservatives unfailingly for near a decade. English Democrats and BNP pulled 1500 and change last election. It should be fertile ground for the EDL. Not a fucking hint of them. This is why they are all fleeing to existing far right orgs or parties. An embarrasing failure of a street movment defeated by lack of talent, state control on every demo and the propensity for member to be criminals.

 

[butchersapron]

Just heard a classic on the radio. Bradford uni Labour party society leader:

'It was great to see so many students going out and voting. It doesn't matter who they voted for. Over time they will become more politically aware.'

Articlu8 will grind them down with no option but vote labour

 

[articul8]

Good for labour - the rest of us? The people you need to 'show'? To 'demonstrate'? PR cunt.

You don't think people want an alternative to cuts, to war?

 

[Citizen66]

Just heard a classic on the radio. Bradford uni Labour party society leader:

'It was great to see so many students going out and voting. It doesn't matter who they voted for. Over time they will become more politically aware.'

Yeah. People vote according to their 'awareness' and not according to their needs.

 

[Citizen66]

You don't think people want an alternative to cuts, to war?

Yes. So that's an alternative to Labour, then.

 

[butchersapron]

You don't think people want an alternative to cuts, to war?

No i don't. You have nothing.

 

[DotCommunist]

false consciousness

 

[articul8]

Yes. So that's an alternative to Labour, then.

it might be - but will that be on offer in a viable form at the next GE? Where there won't be a danger of splitting the vote and helping the Con-Dems. If so, great! Count me in

 

[manny-p]

Yet in the early hours of Friday morning as he celebrated in the street with hundreds of young supporters, Galloway made a mistake which would tell any practising Muslim that he was not one of them: he invited them to join him at noon for a tour of Bradford on an open-top bus. It was only when someone called out "what about Jumu'ah?" that Galloway realised his victory parade clashed with Friday prayers. The tour was duly postponed until 2:30pm.

School boy error-Gorgeous George!

 

[Citizen66]

it might be - but will that be on offer in a viable form at the next GE? Where there won't be a danger of splitting the vote and helping the Con-Dems. If so, great! Count me in

The ConDems and Labour can fuck off equally. What's the alternative? A barely visible mandate for either.

 

[butchersapron]

it might be - but will that be on offer in a viable form at the next GE? Where there won't be a danger of splitting the vote and helping the Con-Dems. If so, great! Count me in

Where there won't be a danger of splitting the vote and helping the Con-Dems

Bing-fucking-go.

 

[articul8]

The ConDems and Labour can fuck off equally. What's the alternative? A barely visible mandate for either.

You are indifferent whether Cameron, Clegg, Osborne and Pickles get back in or not?

 

[treelover]

is it actually possible to know for sure? are votes counted separately in such a way as to give these figures?

GG shouldn't claim it if is isn't proveable, its important if true and very disengenous if its not or is just hyperbole...

 

[butchersapron]

This means nothing, it tells us nothing, vote labour.

 

[Belushi]

it might be - but will that be on offer in a viable form at the next GE? Where there won't be a danger of splitting the vote and helping the Con-Dems. If so, great! Count me in

This is all your politics ever appears to consist of, dire warnings of what will happen if we don't support whatever cause you've hitched your abortive political career to.

 

[Citizen66]

You are indifferent whether Cameron, Clegg, Osborne and Pickles get back in or not?

Sorry, what are Labour offering again?

 

[articul8]

Bing-fucking-go.

So you'd be happy if someone stood in Sheffield Hallam and helped Clegg keep his seat?

 

[articul8]

Sorry, what are Labour offering again?

this is the key question. We'll see.

 

[butchersapron]

You are indifferent whether Cameron, Clegg, Osborne and Pickles get back in or not?

You must say vote labour.

You pathetic shil - is this all you have, vote labour, we're not the tories? You have no idea.