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Galloway returns to Parliament in sensational win in Bradford West - Labour/Coalition smashed

What, that the Labour party don't represent (and by that I mean actively promote) the interests of union members? They may be supposed to. But they don't.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
Yes. Pathetic, but true. They don't represent the interests of union members in any meaningful way, so they are on the fringes of any movement to support them.
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That's why the unions give them millions. Because they are on the fringes. Is this the first time that you've ever come across this term or something? You know all times where you go oh i didn't know that, this is one one of them. This is what the labour movement historically refers to - the unions+labour.
 
butchersapron said:
That's why the unions give them millions. Because they are on the fringes. Is this the first time that you've ever come across this term or something? You know all times where you go oh i didn't know that, this is one one of them. This is what the labour movement historically refers to.
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I know that. You've missed my point. But anyway, I'll leave it.
 
DexterTCN said:
It seems ti imply that the labour party put forward a muslim who drank.
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According to the gossip, yes. On Tuesday, the Muslim Public Affairs Committee stuck its little oar in on the side of al-Respeq with the following commentary:
Thirsty Imran Hussain (hic) likes his refreshments; and campaigning in this unseasonally good weather is thirsty work indeed.​
The Bradford councillor is Labour's new hope in the Bradford West seat, being contested by Respect's powerhouse George Galloway.​
A bi-election has been called following the incumbent, Marsh Singh's announcement that he is to stand down due to health reasons.​
If Hussain can't get his Labour colleagues to help him out canvassing, he might have to rely on his trusted pals John E Walker and Jackie Daniels to give him a hand.​
Make no mistake, George Galloway is giving Hussain a real run for his money. Respect and Labour are neck and neck and Respect have the capacity to deliver a historic blow to Labour's strangle-hold in Bradford. In fact, George could end up giving Imran “both barrels” (but not the barrels Imran was hoping for).​
The constituents of Bradford West have a clear choice between the councillor who represents the party that thinks it has a right to rule in the Northern seats, that started the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, that brought the economy crashing down around our ears, or the candidate who is a tee-totaller and has consistently shown he has the courage of a lion, who has taken on the Zionist scourge, who and is a defender of Muslims and Bradford West's last hope.​
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Imran Hussain might be a shit. I don't know. He might be a piss-head. I don't know, but MPAC's little missive is so cringe-inducing, it makes GGG's letter to Muslim voters, in which he plays the same game he played in the East End, look almost dignified.​
 
butchersapron said:
You've made no point beyond you blundering in and not understanding the historical use of a specific term.
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The word 'tragedy' was intended to convey the irony of an institution set up to represent the labour movement now being on the fringes of that movement. But never mind.
 
How many posters here avoid the lowest common denominator P&P position of "know-it-all" keyboard warrior Cassandra who talks in the abstract about community organising and rank-and-file militancy but spend most of their time agreeing with other "know-it-all" keyboard warrior Cassandra who talk in the abstract about community organising and rank-and-file militancy?

Who argues a case and doesn't just capitulate to the easy-but-impotent board consensus? Even where I disagree them I respect people who do that.
 
articul8 said:
How many posters here avoid the lowest common denominator P&P position of "know-it-all" keyboard warrior Cassandra who talks in the abstract about community organising and rank-and-file militancy but spend most of their time agreeing with other "know-it-all" keyboard warrior Cassandra who talk in the abstract about community organising and rank-and-file militancy?

Who argues a case and doesn't just capitulate to the easy-but-impotent board consensus? Even where I disagree them I respect people who do that.
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A martyr and warrior. Blessed are we to even read your posts.
 
butchersapron said:
Who does he remind me of a bit?
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'For Labour to lose Bradford is significant for a whole number of reasons. it’s good and hopefully a sign of political maturity, that many who crashed on the beaches of Respect around the split are talking again and trying to rise to the enornmous tasks ahead. GG back in Parliament can only aid a renewal of the left, particularly outside of the Westminster circus.'

from post on SU from SWP'er

ah, the rapproachment begins, once more as farce?
 
I know this discussion was a page or two back, but Salma Yaqoob retired as a councillor last year due to ill health (afaik genuine), I don't think she'll be standing for mayor.
 
treelover said:
'For Labour to lose Bradford is significant for a whole number of reasons. it’s good and hopefully a sign of political maturity, that many who crashed on the beaches of Respect around the split are talking again and trying to rise to the enornmous tasks ahead. GG back in Parliament can only aid a renewal of the left, particularly outside of the Westminster circus.'

from post on SU from SWP'er

ah, the rapproachment begins, once more as farce?
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Lest we forget

Galloway said:
fuck off the lot of you
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BigTom said:
I know this discussion was a page or two back, but Salma Yaqoob retired as a councillor last year due to ill health (afaik genuine), I don't think she'll be standing for mayor.
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Cheers for that Tom, that might well kybosh a Byrne challenge. Anyone decent about?
 
butchersapron said:
Cheers for that Tom, that might well kybosh a Byrne challenge. Anyone decent about?
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to stand as Mayor? I don't think so, there were a couple of other respect councillors, there's at least one TUSC candidate this time and there is a group called "communities against cuts" that are standing 2 council candidates (this comes from Stirchley and Cotteridge Against the Cuts who are a really, really good campaign group around the south west of Birmingham, and are standing candidates for election).
Someone might emerge from those groups, I'd go for someone from "communities against cuts" simply because as a group they have done really well in their area - but I don't think that'd work across the whole city. At least they can say that they've saved local facilities from being closed though.

I really hope Byrne doesn't get it, fucking arsehole that he is. Like someone said though, he's got no local visibility, I keep on forgetting he's a Birmingham MP.
 
BigTom said:
I know this discussion was a page or two back, but Salma Yaqoob retired as a councillor last year due to ill health (afaik genuine), I don't think she'll be standing for mayor.
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Yeah, that's true but at the time she was getting shitloads of hate mail/threats from the far right and from islamo nutcases and Respect had imploded.
 
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