G20: Getting to the truth- the death of Ian Tomlinson RIP

[Bernie Gunther]

Well, it's going to be interesting to see what happens. My bet is that the police will start vigorously abusing the new powers they have to restrict photography to make sure nothing like this happens again. Perhaps I'm cynical though ...

 

[winjer]

Here's another theory for ya

Mr Tomlinson was living in a bail hostel....Two birds one stone(baton)???

Quoting this before you edit it, cunt. And it's a hotel, not a bail hostel.

 

[DotCommunist]

How do these fuckers sleep at night?

 

[Corax]

How do these fuckers sleep at night?

They dehumanise their victims, with the media's gleeful assistance.

 

[shaman75]

I feel so angry watching that.

There is some more youtube footage that claims to show him on the floor surrounded by officers here.



I don't know whether this was before or after he was moved.

So angry...

 

[badco]

Quoting this before you edit it, cunt. And it's a hotel, not a bail hostel.

lol you obviouslly haven't encoutered me before....edit my arse

I've never heard of a bail hotel though

 

[lopsidedbunny]

Whilst it sadly good that we got some footage I still don't think he was "just walking home from work" I think he there like the rest of us "rubbernecking" to see what was going on, I mean he was hardly from keeping from "harms" way but rather a "late" comer to the protest, I swear I've seen him earlier in the protest at some point during the day. I think the investigation should now start to focus his movement for the whole day rather than "just" the evening. It will not bring him back but rather highlight the "lies" being spun by the police.

 

[badco]

Quoting this before you edit it, cunt. And it's a hotel, not a bail hostel.

and double lol that you have edited your post

 

[badco]

Whilst it sadly good that we got some footage I still don't think he was "just walking home from work"

Look at the t shirt he had on!!!

Why was he so close to the police?Was he provoking them?I'm guessing living in a bail ho(s)tel he had some bad feelings for the police

Regardless,the police actions were not right.

 

[maomao]

and double lol that you have edited your post

Are you still claiming the possible police brutality couldn't have had any effect on his heart attack? Do you honestly believe that he would have had the heart attack anyway whether atacked by police or not?

 

[Phenotypic Dai]

This is an utter disgrace. The dude had his hands in his fucking pockets.

 

[treelover]

The video that Shaman posted, did the copper slam that young guys head against the Police Van door?, how can that be justified?

 

[butchersapron]

Look at the t shirt he had on!!!

Why was he so close to the police?Was he provoking them?I'm guessing living in a bail ho(s)tel he had some bad feelings for the police

Regardless,the police actions were not right.

Jesus christ. Why is this peice of shit still on here?

 

[cesare]

Look at the t shirt he had on!!!

Why was he so close to the police?Was he provoking them?I'm guessing living in a bail ho(s)tel he had some bad feelings for the police

Regardless,the police actions were not right.

You'd stop at nothing to smear him somehow, eh.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Will those responsible for releasing the 'hail of bottles' statement be done for perjury then? Defamation of character? Attempting to pervert the course of justice? Thought not.

 

[DotCommunist]

This is an utter disgrace. The dude had his hands in his fucking pockets.

Rushed from behind with his hands in his pockets.

What bravery from societies gaurdians

 

[agricola]

Look at the t shirt he had on!!!

Why was he so close to the police?Was he provoking them?I'm guessing living in a bail ho(s)tel he had some bad feelings for the police

Regardless,the police actions were not right.

You are talking rubbish.

There are quite clear guidelines on the use of force by police officers, and I am struggling to think of a situation whereby a police officer would be in any way justified in hitting someone, then charging someone in the back and onto the floor when they are walking away from them with their hands in their pockets.

 

[agricola]

Will those responsible for releasing the 'hail of bottles' statement be done for perjury then? Defamation of character? Attempting to pervert the course of justice? Thought not.

FWIW that statement did not say "hail of bottles", as has been shown.

 

[badco]

I am struggling to think of a situation whereby a police officer would be in any way justified in hitting someone, then charging someone in the back and onto the floor when they are walking away from them with their hands in their pockets.

Which is what I said silly

 

[treelover]

Agri, have you seen the Video Shaman posted, the slamming incident, what do you think about that?

 

[maomao]

The police have been pulling exactly the same kind of shit at demos since I was a kid (I grew up in an activist house). The difference is that we can have the videos up on youtube in a few days now. Exactly how clear does the footage have to be before a single policeman is prosecuted over any of this.

ACAB - no exceptions.

 

[ddraig]

absolutely horrendous
pleasepleaseplease let the guilty cunt pay

RIP Ian
another innocent man killed on the streets of london

 

[agricola]

Which is what I said silly

The bit before that tended to negate the latter statement, as is obvious.

Agri, have you seen the Video Shaman posted, the slamming incident, what do you think about that?

I havent, sorry.

 

[Divisive Cotton]

Jesus christ. Why is this peice of shit still on here?

oh put him on ignore he's just an idiot

 

[badco]

The bit before that tended to negate the latter statement,

Just an observation

 

[SpookyFrank]

FWIW that statement did not say "hail of bottles", as has been shown.

Nor, IIRC, did it say 'we attacked him for no reason minutes before he died'

 

[shaman75]

Feeling very emotional and angry here. Have been watching and digesting it all since Wednesday.

Something has to change in our society. We are treating people like scum.

For the first time in years I want to do something to make a difference.

(Waste of time letter to my mp will be written anyway)

 

[ddraig]

Look at the t shirt he had on!!!

Why was he so close to the police?Was he provoking them?I'm guessing living in a bail ho(s)tel he had some bad feelings for the police

Regardless,the police actions were not right.

it's a millwall fc shirt you absolute cretin
the man is dead and you're still squirming, there's video evidence and you continue to slur him
do you really get a rise out of that?
if you do then you are a sick unfeeling individual

 

[agricola]

Nor, IIRC, did it say 'we attacked him for no reason minutes before he died'

Well no, but then did they even know any of that had happened?

 

[xes]

badco, will you please fuck off and die. Seriously, there is NO defending this fucking action. So you're just trolling. Fucking do one ya cunt.