you are trying to guilt trip me. I think i need my own 'safe space'.
I am not here to attack charity, its only to highlight the fact that charity is not really politics.
and there's a virtue signalling aspect to all of this.
Getting meals to people in need: any ideas?
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you are trying to guilt trip me. I think i need my own 'safe space'.
I am not here to attack charity, its only to highlight the fact that charity is not really politics.
and there's a virtue signalling aspect to all of this.
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Er as skunk anansie pointed out everything's political
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
You're the only one signalling anything here mate.
Not i'm not. and i'm not your 'mate'.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
No, seriously, you are signalling all sorts of things. You have read stuff into this thread that simply isn't there. This reveals much more about you than it does about anyone here.
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Yeh cos it's impossible to have a class analysis of it
no, i've pointed out your underlying basis, which is basically christian victorian charity.
not its not
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You're not very good at this, coming out with things you change in your next breath
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Actually, my 'underlying basis' is that politics does fuck all, whereas people doing good deeds for each other actually gets things done. I'll ask you again the questions you have failed to answer. What has been said here that indicates people are only in it for Christmas? What has been said that indicates people here have a 'saviour complex'? What has been said that is an attempt to 'guilt trip' you? What are your motivations for posting here?
I didn't say people are only in it for Xmas, but many people are. you may not be.
the 'saviour complex' is inherent in charity. the fact i've pointed it out is the cause of your irrational hatred.
guilt trip - questions such as 'what do you do?'
motivations - just asking a question.
you say ' doing good deeds for each other actually gets things done'
probably, depends what you want to get done.
No i don't.
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Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
And as I asked, what has been said that indicates people on this thread are? If not, what is your point bringing that up here?
It's really not.
Which prompts another question. Where have I displayed hatred, irrational or otherwise, on this thread?
A reasonable response to someone criticising others for what they do, no?
No-one just asks questions. You must have a reason for doing so.
I generally assume people want to get food in peoples stomachs and get them out the cold/wet. Until proven otherwise why would I adopt a different position? Where would the utility be in that?
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Yeh like you've disowned Bookchin
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You sure you're not a leninist?
no i haven't. I disown some of his stuff, but not all of it.
because charity is not about getting food in peoples stomachs, it about being seen to get food in peoples stomachs.
maybe not you, or your friends, but for many people, it is
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Just so
Mention of 'safe space' means I can remove bit of a cunt and change it to total cunt on a wind up.
Total cunt.
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Great rationalisation for doing fuck all for others
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
This doesn't answer any of the questions I asked, it just repeats the same claim you made before. But then you're just on the wind up at this point, so fuck it, I'm out of here. Merry Christmas.
Great rationalisation for doing fuck all for others
you can see it that way.
but you can also see it another way.
exactly. you swear too much.
Why are you posting on this thread?
because there is something inauthentic and a bit fake about charity. such as this one:
Muslim owned chip shop feeds homeless and elderly on Christmas Day
of course its a 'good thing', but there is something not genuine about it.
OK. I guess the thread has deviated a little, but that link isn't really helpful to the OP. Two guys want some good publicity for their business and spend time and cash providing free meals. Nothing really inauthentic that I see. Fully appreciate the point you are making (I think) - that people sometimes want something in return for their good deeds?
This is not the case in most circumstances. You don't read about most charity work, because people are not after publicity - they just want to help. People really, authentically do actually just want to help each other.
This is not the case in most circumstances. You don't read about most charity work, because people are not after publicity - they just want to help. People really, authentically do actually just want to help each other.
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What makes you think its not genuine? And more to point, what do you do to support ppl in need in your community?
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