Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Seeing as only you have ever suggested it, and you don't set their agenda, they probably won't, no.
Fuck Gentrification - Join the Fuck Parade...Part 3!
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Seeing as only you have ever suggested it, and you don't set their agenda, they probably won't, no.
Batboy
Trumpeting is good for you...
Somebody should suggest it to whoever is in charge....
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cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Good luck with that.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Well as you've mentioned it about ten times and nobody else is interested, there's only one candidate for that really isn't there?
Batboy
Trumpeting is good for you...
oh for Fuck sake.. have you got their phone number by chance?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
when even the cops have grasped the leaderless nature of anarchism only one man refuses to recognise the reality of the situation ^^
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
No point telling him, he won't have it.
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
Batboy
Trumpeting is good for you...
This is the funniest thing I've read all day.Brilliant.
Went over most peoples head...
Batboy
Trumpeting is good for you...
Telephone call just now.....
dials..... 666
Batboy 'Hi is that the anarchist group Class War?'
Person at the end of the phone 'Err Yes... what do you fucking want?'
Batboy ' Can you put me through to the boss?'
Person at other end of phone 'We don't have bosses , we fucking hate bosses grr!'
Batboy ' Err ok er Can I speak to who is in charge?
Person at other end of phone 'Are you taking the piss mate!?'
Batboy' Err no I just wanted to speak to the decision maker'
Person at other end of phone ' We don't have decision makers'
Batboy 'Oh I see well how does anything get decided?'
Person at the other end of the phone '.... silence and muttering'
Batboy 'Right I see... shame I was going to be offering lots of free beer to the boss'
Person at the other end of phone ' hang on I'll just transfer you....same voiced raised by two octaves ' You're through to the boss, can I help you?'
dials..... 666
Batboy 'Hi is that the anarchist group Class War?'
Person at the end of the phone 'Err Yes... what do you fucking want?'
Batboy ' Can you put me through to the boss?'
Person at other end of phone 'We don't have bosses , we fucking hate bosses grr!'
Batboy ' Err ok er Can I speak to who is in charge?
Person at other end of phone 'Are you taking the piss mate!?'
Batboy' Err no I just wanted to speak to the decision maker'
Person at other end of phone ' We don't have decision makers'
Batboy 'Oh I see well how does anything get decided?'
Person at the other end of the phone '.... silence and muttering'
Batboy 'Right I see... shame I was going to be offering lots of free beer to the boss'
Person at the other end of phone ' hang on I'll just transfer you....same voiced raised by two octaves ' You're through to the boss, can I help you?'
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Kind of the opposite of my mate who worked for anarchist printer, little a. An officious type entered the place one day to talk about some tax issue or other and asked who was in charge. Everyone in the place turned round and said 'I am'. Confused him rather.
That's the beauty of an anarchist workplace. Not that there is nobody in charge, but that everybody is.
Got to page 9, a fair amount of shit chatted from both sides, IMO.
Of course this cafe is gentrification. The reason it's been targetted instead of some nearby overpriced bar is that it has become symbolic of clichéd hipster wankerism, and lazy, price hiking capitalism. Someone comparing it to the markup in pubs. Not really a useful comparison, IMO. Compare it to the markup in a greasy spoon, if you don't want to be comparing apples with oranges. And then accept that the people who own it are chiseling shysters.
As for the protest itself, it is not right to say that anyone who doesn't agree with the methods class war used here is a liberal. That's such tedious "my politics are more hardline than yours, and thus better" bollocks its unbelievable. As I understand it, there were kids in the cafe, and definitely some pretty innocent adults. I'm willing to bet a fair proportion of the cafes customers are not remotely hipsterish. Normal people, who were pretty fucking terrified at the burning effigies, smokebombs, graffiti and masked men outside. Fucking shitting it, I imagine. How anyone can be remotely pleased about this is beyond me.
Of course the place is a valid target for protest, and I would never say that disorder should be off limits as a tactic to use. But this wasn't one of those times.
Of course this cafe is gentrification. The reason it's been targetted instead of some nearby overpriced bar is that it has become symbolic of clichéd hipster wankerism, and lazy, price hiking capitalism. Someone comparing it to the markup in pubs. Not really a useful comparison, IMO. Compare it to the markup in a greasy spoon, if you don't want to be comparing apples with oranges. And then accept that the people who own it are chiseling shysters.
As for the protest itself, it is not right to say that anyone who doesn't agree with the methods class war used here is a liberal. That's such tedious "my politics are more hardline than yours, and thus better" bollocks its unbelievable. As I understand it, there were kids in the cafe, and definitely some pretty innocent adults. I'm willing to bet a fair proportion of the cafes customers are not remotely hipsterish. Normal people, who were pretty fucking terrified at the burning effigies, smokebombs, graffiti and masked men outside. Fucking shitting it, I imagine. How anyone can be remotely pleased about this is beyond me.
Of course the place is a valid target for protest, and I would never say that disorder should be off limits as a tactic to use. But this wasn't one of those times.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
How did they sort out the tax issue?Kind of the opposite of my mate who worked for anarchist printer, little a. An officious type entered the place one day to talk about some tax issue or other and asked who was in charge. Everyone in the place turned round and said 'I am'. Confused him rather.
That's the beauty of an anarchist workplace. Not that there is nobody in charge, but that everybody is.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
I didn't mention or suggest who should be "allowed" to protest - merely posed a couple of questions regarding how the protest was organised, by whom and who for/with etc.
Atheism was once in this position but rather more popular nowadays in the UK. This shit only happens through consent. Every dog has its day.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
every rose has a thorn. and every night has its dawn. and every cowboy sings a sad, sad song.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
What I'm getting at is - what are the aims of a protest such as this? Does it help local people? How does it? (These are not rhetorical, I'm not doing the teacher thing of asking questions I already know the answer to, I'm just wondering how something like this will "reach" the wider public given it's only going to be reported as "hate-filled mob threaten cafe-goers" etc)
This is CW's visible stuff. It generates discussion and small amounts of change (such as poor doors entering into the vocabulary). Most of them involved in less visible stuff though afaik. It's not like they smash a window and then fuck off home til the next bit of aggro. If that's what you think it's a massive misreading.
Didn't have you pegged as a Cinderella fan. 80s thrash stuff way more political.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
ok, ta, not what I thought, didn't think much really, just asking questions kid.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Andrew Hertford
Chocolate Jesus
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
It's debatable, but not a foregone conclusion that I'm younger than you.
Soz, I often call people kid, it's something I got from my Tynesider nanna rather than an attempt to infantilize. Suspect you may have a couple of years on me, mind, I'm 44
Lurdan
old wave
Great story although not one I remember. I do recall a VAT inspector coming to do a scheduled inspection (back in the days that this was fairly routine) and going through the books with me. As the afternoon wore on I became aware that he was dropping the odd reference to Cienfuegos Press and to well known anarchists. Already somewhat on guard I became increasingly paranoid as to what this visit was actually about. Anyhow he left apparently satisfied and after I'd had a cup of coffee and calmed down it occurred to me that he was actually indicating that he had read some anarchist stuff and was not unsympatheticKind of the opposite of my mate who worked for anarchist printer, little a. An officious type entered the place one day to talk about some tax issue or other and asked who was in charge. Everyone in the place turned round and said 'I am'. Confused him rather.
That's the beauty of an anarchist workplace. Not that there is nobody in charge, but that everybody is.
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