Freedom Anarchist Newspaper

[love detective]

this shouldn't be allowed to derail the thread but you are off mark here LD - DARE are a bunch of fundy loons and coppers with strong links to Straight Inc/Drug Free America Foundation - an anti-drugs charity funded by the Bush's who have paid out millions in compensation to kids who were physically and sexually abused as part of their 'treatment'

having said that hoffman's a cunt, his blog here if anyone wants to leave him a message: http://hoffmanphotos.blogspot.co.uk/

you're right it shouldn't be allowed to derail the thread - the simple fact is that dare was a charity, just as private schools are a charity etc..

we can argue about the rights and wrongs of that, but there can be no denying the descriptive terms used by myself when i first referred to it were correct - which the fat professor had to jump on to get any excuse to continue his tedious obsession with me with - i suppose if he's spending time obsessing with me at least his long suffering wife & kid get some time away from the daft prick

 

[phildwyer]

Yes

Fine. Just wanted that clarified.

Seems very strange company for someone who claims to be a "communist" to be keeping though.

 

[love detective]

point me to where i said i was keeping company with them?

remember your entry point here was because i referred to them as charity that was closed down - both true facts

 

[smokedout]

you're right it shouldn't be allowed to derail the thread - the simple fact is that dare was a charity, just as private schools are a charity etc..

fair enough, fuck off dwyer

 

[phildwyer]

the simple fact is that dare was a charity, just as private schools are a charity etc..

But that's not really the "simple fact" is it--much as you'd like us to believe it was. There's a teensy bit more to it than that, wouldn't you say?

we can argue about the rights and wrongs of that

OK, let's do that. Because I think DARE are wrong. Very wrong indeed. You obviously disagree, you think that they're a "charity." Well, that's fair enough, I suppose, but I'd like to hear you offer something more than raging, fuming, steam-out-of-the-ears, frothing-at-the-mouth abuse in defence of your "charity."

Over to you.

 

[Frances Lengel]

At least he's not a specky, though.

 

[phildwyer]

remember your entry point here was because i referred to them as charity that was closed down - both true facts

Not at all. They're hardly "closed down" are they?

But even if both these facts were true, you've still been guilty of misleading us by omission. Why didn't you tell us that they're mainly staffed by serving police officers for instance?

Seriously, I'd like to know. Didn't you think it was important?

 

[smokedout]

really fuck off dwyer - this thread is about the possible closure of the world's longest running anarchist newspaper, not you

 

[love detective]

Not at all. They're hardly "closed down" are they?

But even if both these facts were true, you've still been guilty of misleading us by omission. Why didn't you tell us that they're mainly staffed by serving police officers for instance?

Seriously, I'd like to know. Didn't you think it was important?

is that the best you can do fatso?

go back and look at my first post on it - i was outlining the activities of a parasite giving a number of examples of what he has been upto, everything in that post was factual, accurate and correct

your sad (and going by your recent PM's increasingly sexual) obsession with me however leads you to this contorted post above

when did you stop beating your wife & kid by the way Professor?

 

[love detective]

really fuck off dwyer - this thread is about the possible closure of the world's longest running anarchist newspaper, not you

It's telling how he's prepared to let a personal obsession with me get in the way of what should have been a constructive and informative thread, warning about the parasitical activities of David Hoffman

Unsurprising that one parasite jumps to the defence of another

 

[phildwyer]

is that the best you can do fatso?

you fat prick

you fuck fatso you fat bald prick

you fat bald prick

Why are you getting so angry? It looks bad.

 

[love detective]

those statements, like those about the charity, are factual statements

i wouldn't worry though, i'm sure you have some other redeeming qualities, there must be something, surely

 

[kenny g]

please take it elsewhere

 

[love detective]

you heard the man Professor

 

[Captain Hurrah]

<yawn>

 

[articul8]

I don't remember Dwyer being fat or bald?

 

[phildwyer]

go back and look at my first post on it

Okey-dokey.

Earlier this year he sued a drugs charity for using photographs in good faith that they believed they had the right to use, this ultimately ended up closing down the charity and he successfully established the precedent that 'innocence is no defence'

Gotta say, that still looks pretty misleading to me dude. A "drugs charity" you call them? A "drugs charity" run by the police, a "drugs charity" that encourages schoolkids to rat out their parents, a "drugs charity" founded by Daryl Gates?

Quite frankly, I'm glad that such a "drugs charity" was successfully sued. You're obviously not though. Care to explain why?

 

[phildwyer]

I don't remember Dwyer being fat or bald?

Indeed. Furthermore Love Detective himself just yesterday posted a photo of me that clearly shows I am neither.

So this is yet another example of his mendacity--another easily verifiable example of his mendacity.

I'm beginning to feel a bit cruel here now.

 

[love detective]

The people on this thread have clearly made it known that they have no desire to see this rather undignified lovers tiff continue to ruin the thread

I respect and am happy to abide by their preference, so this is my last off topic post on the matter, if you were half a man, you would do so also

 

[phildwyer]

fat bald prick

you fuck fat

bald fat fuck

And so on.

Seriously, most people would have just laughed this off. Or shrugged it off at least. Most people wouldn't even have noticed the massive hole he's dug for himself. Not Love Detective though. He's obviously stung to the quick. And it truly wasn't my intention to hurt him. Oh well, no use crying over spilt milk and all that.

I'll be back when he's capable of holding a rational conversation again.

 

[smokedout]

in terms of online audience, when i did the website it got a total of 8.5 million hits in 2011, on average 12,000 unique visitors a month. Last issue i was in charge of the paper (april) 700 copies were distributed out of a 1000 copy print run. I can't tell you the sale figures because nobody kept records of sales.

its a real shame the website is barely active anymore, it was starting to become part of the furniture (in a good way) and there was clearly a lot of room for development. the list of the most influential political blogs (fwiw) is showing an upsurge in either radical sites (libcom have been second recently) as well as touchstone/false economy, and lots of claimant led groups etc gathering new readership

sunny twatface seems to have cashed in on a lot of the student protest/workfare/anti cuts stuff and freedom could have easily made an in road - despite the doom and gloom theres a lot of very pissed off people at the moment who are looking for radical ideas and to link up with radical campaigns - a strong Freedom site done right could find itself at the forefront of this with the radical left taking the place of shite like liberal conspiracy and left foot forward - in fact things looked like heading in that direction for the freedom site for a while

the indymedia model is obsolete and too 'activist' based, libcom is naval gazing and a bit boring, theres a real opportunity to be had for a site that even just chronicles what is going on at the moment from a working class but radical perspective imo

 

[malatesta32]

why not a website similar to other newspaper sites? easily accessible and to navigate around - but with no soccer teams!

 

[Nice one]

its a real shame the website is barely active anymore, it was starting to become part of the furniture (in a good way) and there was clearly a lot of room for development. the list of the most influential political blogs (fwiw) is showing an upsurge in either radical sites (libcom have been second recently) as well as touchstone/false economy, and lots of claimant led groups etc gathering new readership

sunny twatface seems to have cashed in on a lot of the student protest/workfare/anti cuts stuff and freedom could have easily made an in road - despite the doom and gloom theres a lot of very pissed off people at the moment who are looking for radical ideas and to link up with radical campaigns - a strong Freedom site done right could find itself at the forefront of this with the radical left taking the place of shite like liberal conspiracy and left foot forward - in fact things looked like heading in that direction for the freedom site for a while

the indymedia model is obsolete and too 'activist' based, libcom is naval gazing and a bit boring, theres a real opportunity to be had for a site that even just chronicles what is going on at the moment from a working class but radical perspective imo

this was exactly what i was hoping to turn it into, and it was developing along those lines. Was in the process of putting together a complete redesign of the site incorporating everything you say above, which makes it all the more frustrating to see it now.

There is severe mismanagement of both freedom finances and its political outlook. Hoffman's pay-out is just the tip of the iceberg - the figures for this year would see freedom (the paper) breaking even and given the fact one individual is paid £12,000 a year it's not difficult to see where all the money is going.

The paper doesn't need to fold, in fact since going monthly it's been at its most popular for decades.

 

[cesare]

Do you mean wages for the bookshop guy?

 

[october_lost]

I had a word with martinh who posts on libcom and he says this journalist is connected to searchlight, so I can imagine there was some zeal connected to this case from his end.

 

[love detective]

yep - that's what i meant when i said

He has also allowed himself to be used as the useful idiot of those with a more sinister & political agenda

 

[Pickman's model]

I had a word with martinh who posts on libcom and he says this journalist is connected to searchlight, so I can imagine there was some zeal connected to this case from his end.

no, he's just a cunt who makes a fuck load of money suing people for this sort of thing.

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't remember Dwyer being fat or bald?

times change

 

[Pickman's model]

in terms of online audience, when i did the website it got a total of 8.5 million hits in 2011, on average 12,000 unique visitors a month. Last issue i was in charge of the paper (april) 700 copies were distributed out of a 1000 copy print run. I can't tell you the sale figures because nobody kept records of sales.

I also proposed an action plan to have the paper financially self-sufficent within the year - which was/is certainly doable. This though would have involved a lot of hard work by all members of the freedom collective.

why aren't you in charge of the paper any more?

 

[Nice one]

expelled from the freedom colelctive for "uncomradely behaviour" - specifically for saying donald (rooum) was the only true anarchist in the freedom collective.