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Former Billericay owner Glenn Tamplin takes over Romford FC

I thought, it better for me to go through the whole post, copy and pasted, my responses in CAPITALS, not because I’m, ‘shouting’ in internet terms, just to differentiate my comments from the original:

I'm a Billericay Town fan. I'm not expecting any of you to like BTFC but having read the comments on this forum here is my take on the situation. I have no problem with your club and wish you luck. Feel free to come back at me on the points I've raised but bear in mind that I certainly won't be getting into a slagging match here as I am trying to build bridges not cause further strife amongst non-league fans.
I DON’T PARTICULARLY DISLIKE BILLERICAY TOWN, I’VE HAD SOME GOOD MOMENTS THERE DOWN THE DECADES. NOT MY FAVOURITE CLUB TO GO TO BY A LONG CHALK , BUT CERTAINLY HAS NEVER BEEN THE WORST. ALWAYS SAW YOUR GROOUND A NICE OLD QUIRKY ONE…PRE-DEVELOPMENT OBVIOUSLY.

I’ve been following events at BTFC recently and on reflection, some of what has been going on excites me and others stuff causes me some concern. I've tried to see things from both points of view, so here goes:

I’ve never met Glenn Tamplin personally but if I did I’d be the first to shake him by the hand and thank him for what he’s done for our club in such a short space of time. He’s taken a club in the doldrums of non-league football, put us on the map and given us a route to potential success. In doing so he’s professionalised the club and created fantastic facilities that will not only benefit the people of Billericay and Essex but also many away fans who will visit the club. He’s clearly passionate, wears his heart on his sleeve and has a social conscience. Personally I think he should be congratulated and shown appreciation for spending his hard-earned wealth in a way that will provide leisure and enjoyment for thousands of others.
THE DOLDRUMS OF NON-LEAGUE FOOTBALL? YOU MEAN THE LEVEL THAT BILLERICAY TOWN HAS PLAYED AT FOR EIGHTEEN OF THE LAST NINETEEN YEARS? IN FACT YOU’VE ONLY EVER SPENT ONE YEAR COMPETING AT A HIGHER LEVEL, WHICH WAS CONFERENCE SOUTH IN 2012/13, WHEN YOU CAME SECOND FROM BOTTOM & GOT RELEGATED! I WANT PROMOTION, BUT I CERTAINLY WOULDN’T CALL OUR CURRENT LEVEL ‘THE DOLDRUMS’. FACILITY WISE, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH HIM IMPROVING THE GROUND..IN FACT WHEN HE FIRST STARTED CHUCKING THE MONEY AROUND I SAID I’D ONLY TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY WHEN HE DEVELOPED THE GROUND ALONGSIDE IT…AT LEAST HE’S DONE THAT. FAR TOO MUCH THOUGH.

When people knock Glenn I can see why he gets angry and defensive. A bit of jealousy is to be expected (we used to be jealous of Canvey in the Jeff King days) but hatred and personal abuse is taking things too far. What would our rivals prefer, that BTFC stayed in the doldrums forever, never rising above this level of football, playing in front of 200 fans at a shabby, run-down stadium against other similar teams on muddy pitches with scrappy football? Do they think this represents a pure, unpolluted version of the game, untainted by money?
ONE THING I’M NOT IS JEALOUS OF BILLERICAY TOWN. I’M INTRIGUED AND ALSO EXTREMELY SAD. THE ODDS ARE AGAINST HIM TAKING YOU ALL THE WAY TO THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE, BUT IT CAN HAPPEN. TRUTH BE TOLD HE DOESN’T NEED TO ‘WASTE’ SO MUCH MONEY AT THIS LEVEL. I’M JUST GRATEFUL HE DIDN’T PUT A MANAGER IN PLACE LIKE OUR OWN GAVIN ROSE, WHO HE COULD HAVE GIVEN A BUDGET A THIRD OF WHAT HE’S PAYING, AND ANY PROVEN GAFFER AT OUR LEVEL COULD HAVE CHERRYPICKED OUR DIVISION TO GET A SIDE TO WIN THE BOSTIK PREMIER THIS SEASON. OF THAT I HAVE NO DOUBT.

Things to consider:

1: Yes, GT is spending a huge amount on players’ wages but the kinds of players he has brought in bring excitement and publicity for the club. Personally I think the level of spending is OTT but usually you get what you pay for in football.
I DON’T DIASAGREE WITH THE PUBLICITY…THAT’S SIMPLY WHAT HAD TO BE DONE WITH THE OBSCENE WAGES HE’S PAYING FOR OUR LEVEL, AND IT WILL BRING THE CROWDS IN, AS HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVEN. BUT…WILL IT BRING IN THE NUMBER OF LOCALS THAT HE WANTS? WHEN IT GOES WRONG, IF IT DOES, MAYBE NOT THIS YEAR, BUT WHENEVER, WILL HE TURN AND BLAME THE LOCAL COMMUNITY FOR NOT SUPPORTING HIM ENOUGH?

2: Having a rich backer in football is nothing unusual. Many, many clubs at all levels have this. A sad truth is that if you want to be successful in football you need money. Good intentions and management will only take you so far.
NO IT’S NOT. IN FACT WE ARE EXTREMELY UNUSUAL AT OUR LEVEL FOR NOT HAVING ANY BUSINESSMEN ON OUR BOARD, IN FACT WE DON’T EVEN HAVE A ‘BOARD OF DIRECTORS’ BUT AN OLD FAHSIONED FOOTBALL COMMITTEE OF TOTALLY VOLUNTERRS, NONE OF WHOM HAVE THE PROVERBIAL ‘POT TO PISS IN’. I DON’T THINK ANYONE WOULD BE SO SHOCKED IF HE ‘SPLASHED THE CASH’ BUT IN TRUTH HE IS SPENDING FAR TOO MUCH MONEY THAN IS NEEDED TO GET OUT OF OUR DIVISION. BUT WITHOUT HIM DOING THAT YOU WOULDN’T BE GETTING THE EXPOSURE & THUS THE CROWDS YOU ARE GETTING, SO IT’S WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR YOU, I SUPPOSE. BUT IT IS VERY MUCH A SLEDGEHAMMER TO CRACK AN EGGSHELL, FROM WHERE I’M STANDING, IF IT’S PROMOTION YOU ARE AFTER.

3: The bigger Premier League clubs have far more money than smaller clubs. Should they also be demonised? Football has never been a level playing field in that respect. You are always going to get big clubs and small clubs, rich ones and poorer ones etc.
AS OTHERS HAVE SAID I DON’T THINK YOUR CLUB WOULD BE AS ‘DEMONISED’ IF IT WASN’T FOR SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND ACTIONS THE REST OF THE FOOTBALLING WORLD IS SEEING FROM MR. TAMPLIN. SURELY THERE SHOULD BE PEOPLE AROUND HIM WHO SHOULD BE ADVISING HIM WHAT TO POST, AND THE ETIQUETTE OF THINGS. MANY FANS FROM OTHER CLUBS SHOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT GOING TO YOUR NEW FACILITIES AND SEEING EXACTLY WHAT’S GOING ON…BUT MANY ARE TRADING IT, AS IF IT’S A FREAK SHOW AT A CIRCUS.

to be continued in the next post.....

Thanks for this mate, you speak a lot of sense.
 
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My part two:

4: People mock the increased crowds at BTFC but what do you expect, and again, is there anything wrong or unusual about this? Any club that is successful attracts more fans and as GT says, BTFC is galvanising the community and putting the small town of BTFC on the map. More people coming to watch football has got to be good for the game.
I’M NOT MOCKING THEM PER SE, I WOULD EXPECT THEM TO INCREASE. AS A LIFELONG HAMLET FAN I’VE SEEN OURS JUMP IMMENSELY AND QUICKLY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, AND WE HAVE HAD TO TAKE SOME MOCKING TOO. BUT-AH, ISN’T THERE ALWAYS A BUT-IF MR. TAMPLIN HADN’T GONE ON SO LOUDLY ABOUT GETTING TWO, THREE EVEN FOUR THOUSAND A WEEK THEN WE WOULDN’T BE KEEPING SUCH CLOSE TABS ON YOUR GATES, AND WOULD JUST SEE THEM AS A BIG INCREASE THAT WE’D EXPECT, FOR THE AMOUNT OF LOCAL INTEREST YOU’RE CREATING IN YOUR PART OF THE WORLD. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SAYING ‘BLIMEY, BILLERICAY HAD A DECENT CROWD AGAINST KINSTONIAN’…INSTEAD WE’RE LAUGHING BECAUSE OF TAMPLIN’S PREDICTIONS/ESTIMATES.

5: GT has brought fun and excitement to the Bostick League. He’s a showman, a businessman and a visionary. Because of him non-league football will get a boost in terms of media exposure and increased attendances at games. Every team in the league will benefit from BTFC’s publicity (Lowestoft for example got a bigger crowd last Tuesday than they would normally have expected.)
I’M NOT DISPUTING WE WILL GET A NUMBER OF CURIOUS LOCALS ON SATURDAY, AND OTHER CLUBS WILL BENEFIT TOO, AS YOU SAY LOWESTOFT DID. BUT THAT IS NOT A REASON TO SAY HE’S DOING A GREAT JOB. PEROSNALLY SPEAKING I DON’T NEED MR. TAMPLIN TO BRING FUN AND EXCITEMENT INTO THE BOSTIK LEAGUE. I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE HAMLET MAN AND BOY SINCE 1974, AND HAVE NOW BEEN ON THE CHAMPION HILL TERRACES, AS WELL AS AWAY GAMES, FOR OVER FOUR DECADES. OUR CURRENT SPELL UNDER GAVIN ROSE OVER THE BEST PART OF THE LAST DECADE HAS BROUGHT ME FAR MORE FUN AND EXCITEMENT INTO MY LIFE THAN I EVER BELIEVED POSSIBLE. HE’S A SHOWMAN? YES, WITHOUT A DOUBT, BUT THAT’S NOT ALWAYS A GOOD THING. HE’S A BUSINESSMAN? YES, BUT ONE WHO’S CLEARLY PREPARED TO CUT CORNERS AND BREAK THE LAW, WHICH IS PUBLIC RECORD. A VISIONARY? MAYBE FROM WHERE YOU’RE SITTING…BUT IT’S FAR TOO EARLY TO SAY THAT. IN FIVE YEARS TIME IF YOU’RE MORE THAN HOLDING YOUR OWN IN THE NATIONAL LEAGUE NATIONAL, THEN I MIGHT ACCEPT THAT, EVEN IF I MIGHT NOT USE THAT EXACT WORD MYSELF, BUT UNTIL THEN…MY PERSONAL JURY IS OUT.

Having said all this, here are a few concerns:

1: It is important that everyone at BTFC acts with dignity and humility in a way that wins friends and doesn’t make us a ‘hate’ club or ‘toxic.’ I would prefer if we had rivals who grudgingly respect us rather than despise us. I fear we have set ourselves up as the ‘great Satan’ of our league who are making headlines for the wrong reasons. We don’t want a situation where families are put off the club because of negative publicity (the same goes for sponsors.) Nor do we want confrontational and potentially aggressive atmospheres at matches caused by antagonism created by Twitter spats etc.
THOSE TWO WORDS: ‘DIGNITY’ AND ‘HUMILITY’. UNTIL MR. TAMPLIN LOOKS THEM UP IN A DICTIONARY AND WORKS OUT HOW TO IMPLEMENT THEM YOU ARE DOOMED & THE VAST MAJORITY OF NON-LEAGUE WILL BE LAUGHING AT YOU, AGAPE AT WHAT YOU ARE DOING, WITH NO RESPECT AT ALL. RESPECT HAS TO BE EARNED. FORTUNATELY I DON’T USE TWITTER, BUT HAVE SEEN ENOUGH OF HIS POSTS TO WONDER HOW ON EARTH HE CAN EVEN GET AWAY WITH SOME OF THEM. FOR THE RECORD I AM NOT A MR. TAMPLIN OR A BILELRICAY TOWN ‘HATER’, MORE OF A ‘PITIER’.

2: It would be better in my opinion to answer the ‘haters’ with dignity and restraint. There’s no point getting into slagging matches. Let them think and say what they want and let the football do the talking. Let’s be professional in the way we conduct ourselves. If people slag us off a polite and dignified response achieves more than responding with insults. It makes the other person look bad and it doesn’t get the rise they are looking for.
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THOUGH, WHY PEOPLE ARE POSTING AND TO DO THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE POSTS FROM MR. TAMPLIN HIMSELF. IT IS NOT THE SO-CALLED ‘HATERS’ THAT HAVE TO ACT WITH ‘DIGITY’ AND ‘RESTRAINT’ BUT THE MAN HIMSELF!

3: Self-confidence is good but boasting isn’t, especially when we haven’t won anything much yet. Even when we do win stuff we need to be gracious in victory, not gloating.
I THINK YOU SHOULD BE TELLING HIM THAT, NOT EXPLAINING TO US, TO BE HONEST.

4: Personally I like the mural but I wonder if it was wise having pictures of GT on it. This will be an easy target for away fans and internet trolls. GT is a working class man from Essex and he may offend middle class sensibilities with his tastes, but so what?
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MURALS IN FOOTBALL…AND HAVING PUMPED IN, TO THE ‘ORDINARY MAN IN THE STREET’ A PROVERBIAL SMALL LOTTERY WIN, HE CAN DO WHAT HE LIKES. BUT HE IS ONLY SETTING HIMSELF UP FOR ‘ABUSE’ BY DOING SO, AND SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISED WHEN HALF OF THE NON-LEAGUE WORLD ARE LAUGHING AT HIM AS A RESULT.

5: GT is untested as a manager and I hope that he does well this season. But if not I hope that he will leave the football side in the capable hands of an experiences and talented manager and concentrate on what he does best; having a dream and taking the necessary steps to make it a reality.
IT’S BLOODY LUDICROUS THAT HE’S ON THE BENCH TO BE HONEST, AND I THINK, THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE REALLY SAYING IN THIS POST. BUT WITH WHAT WE’VE SEEN OF MR. TAMPLIN ALREADY, WITH HIS COMMENTS AND HIS PERCEIVED EGO, DO YOU HONESTLY THINK HE WILL EVER LET AN ESTABLISHED MANAGER JUST GET ON AND MANAGE, WITH THE MONEY HE’S PUMPED IN? I CERTAINLY DON’T THINK SO.
Anyway, that’s my comments done and dusted, I don’t expect you to agree with them all, but at least respect them a little, especially as I’ve ‘wasted’ my lunch break typing this all up!
Personally, with the huge budget you’re working on, which is unprecedented at Isthmian League level, even when there have been rich owners in the past, anything other than a romp to the title must be seen as a huge failure for you.
I’ve already said I don’t hate Billericay Town per se, but with your hugely inflated budget don’t pretend there’s a ‘level playing field’ out there, no matter how much work you do on your bumpy pitch. If we come second and go up in the play-offs, behind you winning the title, then I will resent you for the rest of your life. Because, no matter what you say about there having always been rich owners in football, I will never forgive your club for denying me what would have been the only Isthmian League title in my lifetime.
Anyway, thanks for posting on here, and having the bollocks to try to defend your club. It is appreciated by me, at least.

Cheers mate, no time to answer all your points in detail but I appreciate the respectful response and to be honest hope both our clubs succeed. Enjoy the game tomorrow.
 
I think Every team will earmark their fixtures vs. Billericay to be the games they most want to win (aside from t&m in our case, natch). All this focus and publicity can make life more difficult on the pitch in that regard.

I agree, which is why it's unrealistic to expect Billericay to romp to victory in every single game.
 
But given the massively unfair and disproportionate skewing of money and resources, it's highly likely. Rarely could a victory be so hollow.

Would a victory for 'rich clubs' like Chelsea over small-town clubs be seen as hollow? Even in the Premier League there is no guarantee that wealthy and well-supported clubs will win every game and even if they do it's not always by a seven goal margin. That's just a reality of football surely?
 
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But you could say the same about a match between - say - Chelsea and Huddersfield in the Premier League couldn't you?
Not really. They're professional teams competing in the biggest league in the world, and both enjoy a turnover in the many millions. And besides, we're talking about non league football, and that kind of big-cash-buys-results spending is exactly what many fans want to get away from.

The disparity of wealth and resources between Billericay and the other teams in the same league is obscenely vast. Your weekly wage bill is probably close to what some teams have to make do with for an entire season.
 
But you could say the same about a match between - say - Chelsea and Huddersfield in the Premier League couldn't you?

But that's the (probably) wealthiest team against the (probably) least wealthiest team in PL terms. Chelsea are competing with at least three or four teams with comparable finances, and another three or four teams who aren't a million miles away. That's more than a third of the PL.

The comparative reality of the Isthmian Premier League this year (and I'm not suggesting I know the budgets/finances of any teams) is one Chelsea, maybe four to five Stokes, around ten Bournemouths, and the remainder being Huddersfields.

Which is a long way round to saying the League is never an even playing field, but this year has created a single disparity that's unlike pretty much any other.

In some opinions we're the second favourites, but we've let two players move on to get better deals from last years squad, we've let a promising trialist move on because the wage budget has shrunk, and we've brought in a couple of players on short term arrangements because we can't offer them anything longer. There is no comparison.
 
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Why Chelsea? We've been outspent by United and City the last few years.
 
The Premier League comparison falls down because the wage bill gap in the Isthmian Prem is much wider, but also because the PL is professional teams versus professional teams, whereas Billericay (whilst not yet officially full-time) are apparently paying a whole squad over twice what I've ever earned but playing teams of proper part-timers.
 
Cheers mate, no time to answer all your points in detail but I appreciate the respectful response and to be honest hope both our clubs succeed. Enjoy the game tomorrow.
No problem, I don't expect you to respond to be honest, I'm just offering my viewpoint in response to yours. Feel free to say hello tomorrow, I'll be the bloke at the bottom of the steps selling the '50/50' tickets.
 
But you could say the same about a match between - say - Chelsea and Huddersfield in the Premier League couldn't you?
The difference is that instead of having half a dozen top clubs competing on relatively level terms, our league is now like one Chelsea (or Manchester City) and 23 Huddersfields. Billericay's reported budget is £30k a week. Havant's was reported as around £8-10k a week last season, which is huge for our level. It's unlikely anyone else is spending more than around £5k a week, which I believe is roughly what Hamlet spend.
 
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