Feminism - where are the threads?

[scifisam]

That sounds like a lot of places carrying those two product lines side by side.
Was that picture one of yours, and where did you take it (I mean of them being sold side by side)?

Yes, it is a fair few places.

Has your scepticism finally been satisfied by Santino now or do you want someone to come and sit in your living room with two identical packs and a receipt?

 

[8ball]

Yes, it is a fair few places.

Has your scepticism finally been satisfied by Santino now or do you want someone to come and sit in your living room with two identical packs and a receipt?

Santino's post was relating to a different product. I was talking about that specific picture (as a very tangential side point), as should have been evident to anyone with a reading age over 8, but I'll concede that I misjudged the audience in this case.

 

[scifisam]

Santino's post was relating to a different product. I was talking about that specific picture (as a very tangential side point), as should have been evident to anyone with a reading age over 8, but I'll concede that I misjudged the audience in this case.

Santino was the one who posted the original pic, as you'd be able to tell if you could read, you rude bastard. And does it matter that they're not precisely and exactly the same product? The point stands that there are different plasters in gendered boxes.

 

[Santino]

I'm sorry if through your own error you have felt patronised.

 

[8ball]

Santino was the one who posted the original pic, as you'd be able to tell if you could read, you rude bastard. And does it matter that they're not precisely and exactly the same product? The point stands that there are different plasters in gendered boxes.

Yes. My point was exactly that what he had posted was a picture of plasters in gendered boxes.

 

[scifisam]

Yes. My point was exactly that what he had posted was a picture of plasters in gendered boxes.

...That you didn't believe were really gendered boxes or existed at the same time in the same shops. Everyone else can see what you wrote, you know, no point in pretending that's all you said.

 

[mango5]

It's really flipping tedious watching 8ball take their turn struggling with the idea that equivalent products are frequently gendered and often more costly.
And seeing other posters continuing with little to contribute than historical class analysis showing that (some) men have it rough too
It's as if Gender Capitalism is something FabricLiveBaby! dreamed up. (it's not Google it)
friendofdorothy looks like your middle-aged woman's invisibility cloak has followed you online

 

[Edie]

Purely out of interest, has anyone here heard anything about the big feminist strikes that the article that butchers posted? Heard about it in the news, or via word of mouth or women’s groups.

(Asking because I’m notoriously shit for keeping up with the news. I actively ignore it if I’m too upset or stressed cos it scares me, and I often don’t have time either. So could have just past me by).

 

[JudithB]

It's really flipping tedious watching 8ball take their turn struggling with the idea that equivalent products are frequently gendered and often more costly.
And seeing other posters continuing with little to contribute than historical class analysis showing that (some) men have it rough too
It's as if Gender Capitalism is something FabricLiveBaby! dreamed up. (it's not Google it)
friendofdorothy looks like your middle-aged woman's invisibility cloak has followed you online

You know what they say, those minor annoyances like sexism can be sorted out after the revolution

 

[JudithB]

Purely out of interest, has anyone here heard anything about the big feminist strikes that the article that butchers posted? Heard about it in the news, or via word of mouth or women’s groups.

(Asking because I’m notoriously shit for keeping up with the news. I actively ignore it if I’m too upset or stressed cos it scares me, and I often don’t have time either. So could have just past me by).

No but some of the feminist groups might know. Are you on twitter?

 

[friendofdorothy]

Purely out of interest, has anyone here heard anything about the big feminist strikes that the article that butchers posted? Heard about it in the news, or via word of mouth or women’s groups.

(Asking because I’m notoriously shit for keeping up with the news. I actively ignore it if I’m too upset or stressed cos it scares me, and I often don’t have time either. So could have just past me by).

No. Please tell me more.

 

[friendofdorothy]

it's not really tho is it. the great majority of men under feudalism or capitalism haven't and don't really get much chance to control or own what they want.

and what about the women under the control of those men under feudalism or capitalism. What about them?

I'm fed up of hearing of oppressed men.

 

[friendofdorothy]

friendofdorothy looks like your middle-aged woman's invisibility cloak has followed you online

I'm hoping it will prove to be my super power - Invisible middle aged Harridan! able to sneak right under the nose of men anywhere completely unnoticed...

 

[SheilaNaGig]

Winot from now on I will only ever be able to think of ties as ‘colourful textile phalluses hanging round their necks’, and it will make me silently laugh

My sister pointed out that some beards, especially the goatee variety, actively point down towards the groin, like a penis signpost.

 

[friendofdorothy]

My sister pointed out that some beards, especially the goatee variety, actively point down towards the groin, like a penis signpost.

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Not sure how effective those beards are at signposting to the penis but some I think some of those definitely mark the wearer as a prick.

 

[tim]

Hey, Jude. Don't be afraid, to start your own thread.

Don't be obscure

 

[SheilaNaGig]

friendofdorothy

The Van Dyke one is an actual arrow though...

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Not sure how effective those beards are at signposting to the penis but some I think some of those definitely mark the wearer as a prick.

How would you react to a man saying the equivalent about a woman's appearance? Fuck's sake.

 

[Edie]

No but some of the feminist groups might know. Are you on twitter?

Nah. It was more to see how many women here had even heard of them cos I hadn’t (but then I’m not very political).

But look at this(!): in Spain in 2018, more than 5 million women went on strike about sexism, about equality, about sexual assault, under the slogan “If we stop, the world stops”. Which is pretty fucking cool (I googled and found this: More than 5m join Spain's 'feminist strike', unions say).

So that’s interesting cos it’s interesting (our Spanish sisters ). But it’s also interesting cos I’ve never heard about it, nor have you etc. Heard of #metoo not heard of that, I’m not sure what that means (it’s late I’m tired now).

 

[friendofdorothy]

How would you react to a man saying the equivalent about a woman's appearance? Fuck's sake.

Really? Am I not allowed an opinion? I would not be so rude to say it to the beard wearer himself. The culture of trimming facial hair is a fashion and says something about the wearer in my (usually unvoiced) opinion.

Men have had no problem at all in commenting my own appearance, audibly and to my face on, no matter how rude, untimely or unwelcomed. I've been called all sorts of things - Whoar look at the tits on that! slag! Lezzer! Sexy! fat cow! cheer up love it my never happen! ugly bitch! Women have their appearance assessed and commented on - all the time.

I thought I was being a rather gentle about male facial fashions in caparison.

 

[8ball]

My sister pointed out that some beards, especially the goatee variety, actively point down towards the groin, like a penis signpost.

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I’m torn between the Rap Industry Standard and the Imperial Napoleon
III.

It’s not just beards, though. So many men sport no beard at all yet still insist on having chins *and* noses that point downwards directly toward their genitals.

*Everything* is about their penis - they’re obsessed!

 

[scifisam]

I’m torn between the Rap Industry Standard and the Imperial Napoleon
III.

It’s not just beards, though. So many men sport no beard at all yet still insist on having chins *and* noses that point downwards directly toward their genitals.

*Everything* is about their penis - they’re obsessed!

Yes, that's what people were saying.

Why are you trolling this thread?

 

[mojo pixy]

I'm fed up of hearing of oppressed men.

That's it then lads, just suck it all up and shut your mouths.
Life is good, with a penis. Women say so, and women are always right.

I may be retiring from these boards today.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

Oh. My. Days.

 

[weepiper]

For fuck's sake lads, it's a thread specifically about feminism and why women aren't talking about feminism on urban. Why not start your own threads about problems men face? No-one is stopping you.

 

[killer b]

That's it then lads, just suck it all up and shut your mouths.
Life is good, with a penis. Women say so, and women are always right.

I may be retiring from these boards today.

This is totally proportional.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

For fuck's sake lads, it's a thread specifically about feminism and why women aren't talking about feminism on urban. Why not start your own threads about problems men face? No-one is stopping you.

 

[Edie]

Let’s not get into a fight where men feel attacked and women feel aggrieved that they do. That’s pointless and boring.

Let’s talk about whether talking about the ascent of individual women as feminism has been damaging or helpful or a mix of both? I think the arguments that liberal feminism damaging cos it advances neoliberalism by giving it the veneer of progressive advancement. (I’m never a hundred percent sure what neoliberalism is but I’ve used the word).

I’m not totally convinced. Smells a bit of ‘stay in your place’ or saying we can’t celebrate women’s achievements- especially when for so many years we were in the silent background.

 

[8ball]

Edie - that might have been worth a new thread rather than tacking onto this one.

 

[purenarcotic]

I don’t think a female scientist doing well is what they’re getting at tbf. It’s more to do with having women as PM for example - as a direct result of May’s policies women are dying. And she dares to wear a t-shirt claiming to be feminist? Man or woman at the top, it doesn’t move us on overall.