Favourite Columbo episode
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Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
BUT IT'S EVEN GOT DOG
It wasn't a spin-off, it was a rip-off.
Reno
The In Kraut
One doesn't negate the other.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
SHE'S EVEN GOT THE COAT
Did I say it does?
Reno
The In Kraut
You said it wasn't a spin-off but it was. The fact that it was shit is another matter.
Don't argue with German logic !
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Oh, thats niceMy favourite box set is my Homicide: Life on the Street box set. It looks like a filing cabinet, and pulls out like one (it has a little metal handle on the front), and inside there are filing cabinet-style dividers with information about each season. It's
It's not a spin-off, because it's not based on Columbo.You said it wasn't a spin-off but it was. The fact that it was shit is another matter.
Don't argue with German logic !
Reno
The In Kraut
It was called Mrs. Columbo.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
The network was pitching it at the emerging Sri Lankan marketIt was called Mrs. Columbo.
It was also called Kate Loves A Mystery, had nothing to do with Columbo, and was an entirely different kind of show.It was called Mrs. Columbo.
Reno
The In Kraut
It got renamed later on because the show was failing and its connection to Columbo proved unpopular. That doesn't change that Mrs Columbo started out as a spin-off from Columbo and she was supposed to be his wife. Whether you like it or not, taking a minor, recurring or supporting character from one show (even when that character was never seen) and developing a new show around them, is called a "spin-off". It's referred to as such in every introduction to the show, like here:
Mrs. Columbo (TV series) - Wikipedia
...and here:
Mrs. Columbo (TV Series 1979–1980) - IMDb
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Reno
The In Kraut
Stop behaving like an unreasonable toddler.
Reno
The In Kraut
The difference between fan fiction and a spin-off is that fan fiction is written by fans, a spin-off actually gets made by the same studio who produced the original. As if the terminology didn't make it obvious.
Sorry, got a life to get on with now...
The studio, yes, but not the producers or Falk himself, who are the closest thing to the authors of Columbo.
Columbo is a fictional character, and the very notion of fiction depends on a certain proprietorial relationship between author and work. It's no coincidence that fiction as a genre only emerged fully with the rise of capitalism and its ability to regulate the production of narratives.
Columbo is a fictional character, and the very notion of fiction depends on a certain proprietorial relationship between author and work. It's no coincidence that fiction as a genre only emerged fully with the rise of capitalism and its ability to regulate the production of narratives.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Reno
The In Kraut
Remakes, prequels, sequels, reboots and spin-offs are all primarily driven by commercial considerations. The idea is to cash in on a familiar brand name. You seem to be under the misapprehension that franchise expansions are driven by creative considerations.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
folk tales fit your theory how?
Very nicely, thanks.
Fiction is a modern classification. It's not simply stories that aren't true. Folk tales, like myths, do not have an identifiable author, and are therefore open to revision and variation in ways that modern novels in general are not.
Many genres (in the widest sense) of human activity seem simple and obvious to us - natural even. But they all have a specific historical and cultural background.
Many genres (in the widest sense) of human activity seem simple and obvious to us - natural even. But they all have a specific historical and cultural background.
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
and yet we have the vladimir propp who classifies such things on a notedly transferable scale. Is little red hood little red hood if she is not riding? What if in this iteration of the tale she is a wily fox?. Which are fictions that came before capitalism.
I'm not sure I take your point. There have always been stories - things that we now classify as fiction in the broad sense of things that aren't true - but fiction as a self-contained story world which has a definitive version is a relatively modern thing, emerging in Europe along with the birth of capitalism and Enlightenment thinking. (Although there are arguably precursors such as late Antiquity and Heian Japan.)
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
you said arguably therefor you know you're on a hiding to nothing sir. And I never even mentioned homer.
*puffs on cigar stub while squinting*
*puffs on cigar stub while squinting*
Homer's an interesting case because his sources are mythological but his treatment of them is probably his own; it's the birth of literature, with aesthetic considerations over-riding the demands that the story reflect the broader 'Truth' (whether religious, political, cultural etc.) that the story is a vehicle for.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
I am in receipt of the box set.
I have watched the first 4 episodes. You know, I don't remember the early ones - maybe I never saw them before.
The one with the art critic - episode 4 of the first season - was especially great. The fucking fingerprints, man
I have watched the first 4 episodes. You know, I don't remember the early ones - maybe I never saw them before.
The one with the art critic - episode 4 of the first season - was especially great. The fucking fingerprints, man
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