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Falklands 40 years on ..
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likesfish
You can't park here sir
strangely standing around looking smart is not good preparation for fighting in a cold boggy location
Flavour
hang the bankers
James Cleverly says Falklands are British as Argentina ends deal
Argentina has broken a co-operation deal and is calling for talks over the sovereignty of the Falklands.
www.bbc.com
Feel like Argentina might rattle some sabers to distract from ongoing economic turmoil
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Don't know enough about current Arg domestic politics to grip why now, but this may throw a spoke in a little thing that could have big ripples.
Argentina is looking to buy some fighters, because it's current lot are all on bricks. There are two potential suppliers: the US with some second hand F-16's (with a UK nod to the US DoD), or JF-17's from China. Buying from China will put them even more in Chinese orbit, there's also talk of a Chinese 'facility' at a dockyard in Patagonia, and Chi 'investment' in infrastructure.
This makes it more difficult for UK to say yes to US - or for the US to say yes to Arg - and more likely they'll go for the Chinese. The Chinese of course have a vested interest in tying up UK mil assets in the South Atlantic, rather than having them in the South China Sea.
Argentina is looking to buy some fighters, because it's current lot are all on bricks. There are two potential suppliers: the US with some second hand F-16's (with a UK nod to the US DoD), or JF-17's from China. Buying from China will put them even more in Chinese orbit, there's also talk of a Chinese 'facility' at a dockyard in Patagonia, and Chi 'investment' in infrastructure.
This makes it more difficult for UK to say yes to US - or for the US to say yes to Arg - and more likely they'll go for the Chinese. The Chinese of course have a vested interest in tying up UK mil assets in the South Atlantic, rather than having them in the South China Sea.
T & P
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Vivan Las Malvinas! Viva la Unión Europea!
www.independent.co.uk
I've just reheated my tea by holiding it next to my PC screen showing the Daily Mail article on this
Sunak accuses EU of ‘regrettable’ choice of words in Falklands row
Argentina hailed the declaration signed on Tuesday a ‘triumph of diplomacy’
www.independent.co.uk
I've just reheated my tea by holiding it next to my PC screen showing the Daily Mail article on this
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
We will remember them.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Vivan Las Malvinas! Viva la Unión Europea!
Sunak accuses EU of ‘regrettable’ choice of words in Falklands row
Argentina hailed the declaration signed on Tuesday a ‘triumph of diplomacy’
I've just reheated my tea by holiding it next to my PC screen showing the Daily Mail article on this
Should get some juices flowing. Totally political from the EU point of view and will probably only lead to the UKG telling Argentina to go fuck themselves again, but fun to keep it in the news.
Bingoman
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Arent we glad we left the EUVivan Las Malvinas! Viva la Unión Europea!
Sunak accuses EU of ‘regrettable’ choice of words in Falklands row
Argentina hailed the declaration signed on Tuesday a ‘triumph of diplomacy’
I've just reheated my tea by holiding it next to my PC screen showing the Daily Mail article on this
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
The EU have changed their minds and are now using The Falklands/Malvinas, after a "regrettable choice of words".
news.sky.com
'Regrettable choice of words': EU backs down after calling Falklands by Argentine name - PM
The prime minister intervened after the UK objected to a summit declaration that contained reference to 'Islas Malvinas'.
news.sky.com
skyscraper101
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Haha fuck Sunak. It's just another manifestation of Brexit. Welcome to being on the outside pissing in.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
skyscraper101
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skyscraper101
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Yeah I got all that. I was just making the point that stuff like this probably wouldn't have even needed amending if the EU still had the UK within it looking after its interests.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Meh. It was the usual meaningless load of old bollocks raised by Argentinas/Celac, about Falklands sovereignty, which the EU kicked into the long grass, but some minion used the wrong words and is probably getting told-off as we speak. The EU couldn't give a fuck about The Falklands, and would far prefer Argentina just to go away.
skyscraper101
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That’s the point, the EU doesn’t care, the U.K. got played and Sunak threw his toys out. And then it all had to be backpeddled. A needless waste of time for all sides except Argentina who take all the troll points.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
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Plastic Paddy
You're viewing this from a very strange perspective. The UK hasn't been played at all. This was a fuck-up by the EU which they've now back-tracked on. Argentina take no troll points whatsoever because the EU have had to reiterate their position which is not what the Argentinians want it to be. At best, if Britain was still an EU member they might have been able to clip the original statement but it's hardly one in the eye for Brexit.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Thick as mince.
It's been an issue since the 18th century, which somewhat predates the discovery of oil.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
If there wasn't Antarctica in the area...
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Not for Brexit, but certainly for the usual suspects in the U.K. right wing media and Tory politicians, who once again have taken the bait and exposed themselves though their apoplectic reaction as the raving lunatic gammons yelling at clouds that they are.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
More nuanced than that - much more.
Yes, foaming loons honk off. It's what they do - mainly while taking a 30 second break from honking that having an account with Courts is a human right.
However, much less puce tinted people take the view that sloppy language creates grey areas, it creates misunderstandings, it allows wishful thinking, it encourages people to think things - usually things they really want to think - and possibly do things that they think they've got a green light for.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Well again, that's quite a partisan position to take.
The UK claim to sovereignty over The Falklands is not a particularly right wing or Tory view. Sure, they're the dicks who would get more immediately exercised than most if the EU as a bloc suddenly officially decided to call the islands Las Malvinas, but so would many others. It would be an enormous shift in their previously stated policy, and the European Union would have to vote on that as policy as a whole, not just one prat gobbing-off out of turn.
Argentina, understandably, seized on the mistake, trying to make political capital out of it, but they (along with the unnamed "EU source" who wanked-on about the UK not having a say in things because of Brexit) are the ones who have ended up with egg on their faces when the correction was made, the EU announced that their official position was the same as before, and subsequently referred to The Falklands/Las Malvinas.
If this hadn't been straightened out as quickly as it has been, most right-minded people would have joined the gammons in calling the EU, cunts.
Fortunately we didn't need to!
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dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
Catholics do love a bit of fascism
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