Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Leclerc getting third without actually seeming to have raced anyone all afternoon.
F1 2024
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Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
So ridiculous they all have to put on their expensive sponsors watches just to get them soaked in champagne five minutes later.
Boo Radley75
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That's the quietest crowd I've heard, at the end, for a while. Can't remember the last time Max didn't make any mistakes and still got spanked by 22 seconds. Can Lando close down the gap to Max? Almost feels like we have a second half season of catch up on our hands like Lauder v Hunt but without the nasty accident.I hope Lando says when interviewed after the race "its great to see so many people wearing the McLaren orange"
Limejuice
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1%er
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I'd be surprised if Lando gets to keep those Richard Mille, there over half a million dollers each
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Lando surprisingly subdued really.
1%er
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Not sure he'll beat Max to the drivers but I think McLaren can catch Red Bull for the big money constructors championship
Boo Radley75
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Only 20th F1 race ever with no retirements.
Limejuice
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No yellow flags, were there?
MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
Toto Wolff has clarified that the second pitstops taken by Lewis and George were not strategic throws of the dice, but a necessity as their tyres would not have made it to the end. Which is good, because if they chose that strategy it would have been egg on face time as both lost out as a result.
It’s starting to look interesting for the championships. What we assumed was a Verstappen year might become a competition if Lando can keep delivering, but perhaps Red Bull will bring an upgrade to fix their understeer issues. Max is doing a good job of limiting the damage and with multiple competing potential alternative winners, he might not lose out.
In the constructors, with Perez being all at sea, Red Bull could easily end up third behind McLaren and Ferrari.
Todays GP was the kind of race we would all have been raving over a few years ago when competition was sadly lacking, so it’s a tribute to how good F1 has become that we barely mention what a great and interesting race it was.
It’s starting to look interesting for the championships. What we assumed was a Verstappen year might become a competition if Lando can keep delivering, but perhaps Red Bull will bring an upgrade to fix their understeer issues. Max is doing a good job of limiting the damage and with multiple competing potential alternative winners, he might not lose out.
In the constructors, with Perez being all at sea, Red Bull could easily end up third behind McLaren and Ferrari.
Todays GP was the kind of race we would all have been raving over a few years ago when competition was sadly lacking, so it’s a tribute to how good F1 has become that we barely mention what a great and interesting race it was.
Limejuice
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Buongiorno a tutti. È un altro weekend di gara.
Monza, which modestly styles itself as the "Temple of Speed", beckons.
UK telly times will be:
Fri 30 Aug
FP1 - 12:30
FP2 - 16:00
Sat 31 Aug
FP3 - 11:30
Qual - 15:00
Sun 1 Sept
Race - 14:00
Let's all hope for continuing uncertainty and jeopardy at the pointy end of the pack.
Monza, which modestly styles itself as the "Temple of Speed", beckons.
UK telly times will be:
Fri 30 Aug
FP1 - 12:30
FP2 - 16:00
Sat 31 Aug
FP3 - 11:30
Qual - 15:00
Sun 1 Sept
Race - 14:00
Let's all hope for continuing uncertainty and jeopardy at the pointy end of the pack.
1%er
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Franco Colapinto replaces Logan Sargeant at Williams
Williams Racing has announced that Franco Colapinto will race with the team for the remainder of the 2024 FIA Formula 1 World Championship season and will compete from the Italian Grand Prix alongside Alex Albon. He will use the race number #43. Franco is a member of the Williams Racing Driver Academy and made his FP1 debut in this year’s FW46 at the British Grand Prix. His F2 campaign this year has seen him secure a race win in Imola and podiums in the Barcelona and Austria Feature races, as well as seven further points-scoring outings. The 21-year-old will become the 49th Grand Prix driver for Williams Racing*, is the first Argentine driver in F1 for 23 years and the second Argentine to drive for the British outfit, following his countryman Carlos Reutemann.The team would like to take the opportunity to thank Logan Sargeant for his hard work and contribution over the past two seasons. He has competed in 36 Grands Prix and, at the US GP last year, became the first American driver to score an F1 point since Michael Andretti 30 years prior. Logan will remain in the Williams family and we will support him to continue his racing career.
Franco Colapinto: “It is an honour to be making my Formula 1 debut with Williams – this is what dreams are made of. The team has such amazing history and a mission to get back to the front which I can’t wait to be part of. Coming into F1 mid-season will be an enormous learning curve but I am up for the challenge, and I’m fully focused on working as hard as I can with Alex and the team to make it a success.”
James Vowles, Team Principal: “To replace a driver mid-season is not a decision we have taken lightly, but we believe this gives Williams the best chance to compete for points over the remainder of the season. We have just brought a large upgrade to the car and need to maximise every points-scoring opportunity in a remarkably tight midfield battle. We also believe in investing in our young drivers in the Williams Racing Driver Academy, and Franco is getting a fantastic opportunity to demonstrate what he is capable of across the final nine rounds of the season. This is undoubtedly incredibly tough on Logan, who has given his all throughout his time with Williams, and we want to thank him for all his hard work and positive attitude. Logan remains a talented driver and we will support him to continue his racing career for the future. I know that Franco has great speed and huge potential, and we look forward to seeing what he can do in Formula 1.”
1%er
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F1 considering a rookie Sprint race after season finale
Traditionally, a post-season test is what follows the season finale in Abu Dhabi. This event typically involves many Formula 2 drivers, who complete dozens of laps for their respective teams. For those seen as future F1 prospects, these sessions are a good opportunity to get some F1 experience. They also give teams a chance to collect data on their academy drivers. However, F1 is considering a more competitive environment to give young talents running time next season: “We are thinking about how we can give young people the opportunity to shine and gain experience during the tests in Yas Marina,” explains F1 CEO Stefano Domenicali. “That would certainly be helpful to prepare them for the next step. We will be talking about this in detail by the end of September to understand the feasibility of this idea.”Over recent years, various ideas have been floated, many of which have been opposed by F1 fans. However, the initial reactions to this proposition are overwhelmingly positive. Not only could a post-season Sprint event provide a more competitive, realistic environment for young drivers to gain experience, but it does not infringe on traditional F1 weekends. Of course, there is still a long way to go before this idea is agreed to and implemented. Teams will undoubtedly be cautious about the prospect of incurring crash damages after the season has finished. Then again, the last few seasons have seen a surprising willingness from teams to entertain new ideas.
1%er
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These are the teams that have asked about Adrian Newey
The Formula 1 world was shocked in Miami, when Red Bull announced Adrian Newey would be leaving the Formula 1 team. Since then, the legendary designer has been linked with nearly every team on the grid including Ferrari, McLaren and Aston Martin. However, on his Formula For Success podcast with David Coulthard, Newey's manager Eddie Jordan has revealed more regarding where Newey might work next.Where will Newey work next?
Every team would want Adrian Newey as part of their team. He has won 12 Constructor's titles with three different teams, and 13 driver's titles with seven different drivers. Speaking on his podcast, Eddie Jordan revealed more details about where Newey could end up after the British designer was brought up by David Coulthard. “That's why [Flavio Briatore] wants to obviously involve a discussion with Adrian, which I think is hugely popular for Adrian. Now I understand that every single team in Formula One has spoken to us and indeed two teams that are not currently on the grid at the moment. And I let people think about that.” Jordan stated.
The two teams not yet on the grid are Audi and Andretti. Audi will be taking over the Stake F1 Team in 2026. Andretti made a bid to join F1 as the sport's 11th team, but their bid was rejected. However, Andretti are still pushing to join the top level of motorsport, having opened a factory at Silverstone ready for their Formula 1 operation. Coulthard did try to push Jordan further into revealing more details regarding Newey's future, including Martin Brundle's interview with Aston Martin owner Lawrence Stroll during his grid walk on Sunday. However, Jordan kept quiet over this and steered the conversation away.
1%er
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McLaren screwed up Piastri to favour Norris
Ever since the Hungarian Grand Prix, McLaren has come under a lot of criticism over their team orders. During that weekend, the team chose to pit Lando Norris first despite the Brit being behind Oscar Piastri on track. This put Norris in front of the Australian, despite Piastri having led the majority of the race. Eventually, Norris did return the position, but after a lot of debate between himself and the pit wall. Since then, McLaren has been under the watchful eye of fans and pundits alike regarding which driver they prioritise. Eddie Jordan believes they made a "very serious mistake" at Zandvoort.Did McLaren intentionally 'screw up' Piastri to favour Norris
Speaking on their Formula For Success podcast, Eddie Jordan and David Coulthard were debating over whether McLaren can seriously challenge Red Bull for the Constructors Championship. Coulthard started by saying "The constructors really does feel that the momentum is well and truly with McLaren. You mentioned Oscar there. Oscar didn't quite manage to put his weekend together in the same way that Lando and even if..." before being interrupted by his co-host Jordan. "They screwed him up. David, stop, stop. McLaren screwed him up again. They left him out far too long and you know that and they've done that before and then they're stacking at Silverstone. Look, as far as I'm concerned it's no harm because I think Piastri has won his race. He now has the knowledge. He knows how to win and what it's like to win. But you know, some of the things are playing absolutely away from him and that is that I think they made a very serious mistake about the way they pitted him. They let it go far, far too late." This was the opinion of the former team owner on McLaren's strategy at Zandvoort.
Norris had pitted on lap 28 and went on to win the race by over 20 seconds. Piastri, however, was left out until lap 33 and finished the Grand Prix fourth. Coulthard was of the opinion that this wasn't just the team's fault on race day. "I think that he has to own that he didn't quite get his [Piastri] lap together in qualifying. And that's where the difficulties start. And I have a lot of experience of not pulling together qualifying lap. If you get ownership of the grid, get yourself at the front, that's exactly what you have. Ownership. The minute you're on the back foot, which is where he was on the grid, having qualified third, then I think he lost that place again at the start. So the whole thing was going to be difficult for him.” Coulthard concluded. Despite disagreeing over whether or not McLaren 'screwed up' Piastri, the pair were in agreement that McLaren could seriously challenge Red Bull for the Constructors title.
[I disagree with Eddie Jordan, I think McLaren split their strategy's from the get-go and stuck with their decision]
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
a_chap
When the world came apart, where were you?
It reminds me of waaaay back in the day when they used the Safety Car for the very first time in F1 at Silverstone. It was a Big Thing back then, everyone knew it could be deployed and everyone knew the rules about it. It was on the bloody PA every ten fucking minutes it seemed. I'm sure the drivers had been briefed (and interviewed) to hell about it too.
And - Lo - the Safety Car was deployed in damp conditions during a practice (or qualifying, my memory's not THAT good) session.
I was in the grandstands on what was then the start/finish straight and watched as an F1 car - at full tilt - suddenly found a saloon car trundling happily along in front of him.
It was a very impressive demonstration of:
And - Lo - the Safety Car was deployed in damp conditions during a practice (or qualifying, my memory's not THAT good) session.
I was in the grandstands on what was then the start/finish straight and watched as an F1 car - at full tilt - suddenly found a saloon car trundling happily along in front of him.
It was a very impressive demonstration of:
- how powerful F1 brakes are
- the immense stupidity of some F1 drivers
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MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
Looks weird. The car pulls right in the initial braking phase then he pulls it back before things all get a bit spinny. Brake failure on one wheel maybe, or a puncture perhaps?
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Logan Sergeant's first day as the new safety car driver?
Limejuice
Well-Known Member
"Logan, we've been over this. Drive on the black stuff; stay off the green."
MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
Has anything more been said about how the safety car crash happened? If it’s not being discussed openly it would fit the theory of it being a car fault, since the safety car is basically a commercial sponsorship deal from AM with big money involved, so F1 would not want to embarrass their sponsor with “the car tried to kill me” quotes from Maylander.
