Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Fuck fuck fuck the guy came to deliver the new washing machine right at the time of the last lap
had the landlord knocking for the rent in the last 4 minutes
was a polite fuck off for ten minutes
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had the landlord knocking for the rent in the last 4 minutes
was a polite fuck off for ten minutes
Lord Camomile
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Fuck fuck fuck the guy came to deliver the new washing machine right at the time of the last lap
Someone's picking up a DVD player I'm getting rid of tomorrow, and I've asked them to please avoid 2pm-3pm if at all possible (for some reason asking them to avoid the full two hours of the race seemed too much
).
dessiato
🇪🇸 my spirit is crying for leaving
Do you have pause live tv? It might mean you don’t have to miss anything.
Someone's picking up a DVD player I'm getting rid of tomorrow, and I've asked them to please avoid 2pm-3pm if at all possible (for some reason asking them to avoid the full two hours of the race seemed too much
Lord Camomile
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Aye, fair, I do, but then it's not live and I can't follow along with everyone else.
1%er
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2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix grid
| Row 1 | 1. Max Verstappen 1’22.109 Red Bull | |
| 2. Lewis Hamilton 1’22.480 Mercedes | ||
| Row 2 | 3. Lando Norris 1’22.931 McLaren | |
| 4. Sergio Perez 1’22.947 Red Bull | ||
| Row 3 | 5. Carlos Sainz Jnr 1’22.992 Ferrari | |
| 6. Valtteri Bottas 1’23.036 Mercedes | ||
| Row 4 | 7. Charles Leclerc 1’23.122 Ferrari | |
| 8. Yuki Tsunoda 1’23.220 AlphaTauri | ||
| Row 5 | 9. Esteban Ocon 1’23.389 Alpine | |
| 10. Daniel Ricciardo 1’23.409 McLaren | ||
| Row 6 | 11. Fernando Alonso 1’23.460 Alpine | |
| 12. Pierre Gasly 1’24.043 AlphaTauri | ||
| Row 7 | 13. Lance Stroll 1’24.066 Aston Martin | |
| 14. Antonio Giovinazzi 1’24.251 Alfa Romeo | ||
| Row 8 | 15. Sebastian Vettel 1’24.305 Aston Martin | |
| 16. Nicholas Latifi 1’24.338 Williams | ||
| Row 9 | 17. George Russell 1’24.423 Williams | |
| 18. Kimi Raikkonen 1’24.779 Alfa Romeo | ||
| Row 10 | 19. Mick Schumacher 1’24.906 Haas | |
| 20. Nikita Mazepin 1’25.685 Haas |
Lord Camomile
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Meanwhile, this isn't exactly encouraging for Hamilton/Merc and their fans:
Though this may prove some small silver lining to all that:
Though this may prove some small silver lining to all that:
Lord Camomile
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Ooooh, Lando!
surreybrowncap
“Those who believe in telekinetics, raise my hand"
We will all promise to pause our tv's when dvd person comes to collect...
Lord Camomile
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Lord Camomile
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Maybe I could just dial up Masi on the radio and ask him to stick a VSC out or something.
ricbake
working out how
Pirelli reveal optimum strategy for Abu Dhabi GP
Just read this before realising it was about 2020 - Is there an advantage starting on medium tyres?
Nothing given away here
www.autosport.com
Just read this before realising it was about 2020 - Is there an advantage starting on medium tyres?
Nothing given away here
Verstappen: Red Bull didn't plan to start Abu Dhabi GP on soft tyres
Max Verstappen says Red Bull did not plan starting Formula 1’s 2021 Abu Dhabi finale on the less durable soft tyres, but insists it is not a disadvantage to Mercedes.
www.autosport.com
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
soft tyre get away from the line better but wear more quickly
if its a one stop race it means a long stint on a hard maybe losing all racing life at the end or a 2 stop race strategy
so seeming as you lose around 25 seconds per stop and passing is worse at this race circuit this year
so mediums means a longer first stint and resulting less wear on the second set of hards
about it
still seeming as Max still does not like to yield it could all end in tears anyways
if its a one stop race it means a long stint on a hard maybe losing all racing life at the end or a 2 stop race strategy
so seeming as you lose around 25 seconds per stop and passing is worse at this race circuit this year
so mediums means a longer first stint and resulting less wear on the second set of hards
about it
still seeming as Max still does not like to yield it could all end in tears anyways
Limejuice
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Compared to the performance of Mercedes's
I think Red Bull's masterstroke will be to force Mercedes to develop their race plan on the fly, knowing that they are almost always fucking useless.
Lord Camomile
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In a way I feel it's a shame Verstappen is going into this race ahead, as it plays into his natural style of "if we crash, we crash". Would be interesting to see how he drives if his title hopes relied on him finishing the race
I suppose in one sense they still do, as obviously that presumes any incident between the two takes them both out, rather than something more like Silverstone.
I suppose in one sense they still do, as obviously that presumes any incident between the two takes them both out, rather than something more like Silverstone.
Lord Camomile
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Also feels like Verstappen's non-qualifying lap last week is symbolic of his whole approach. Lots of talk about him driving to the limits, but the whole point of them being limits is that if you go over them then you lose it.
So whether that's because you reached the physical limits of how hard your car can hit a wall and keep moving, or the conceptual limits of how 'aggressively' you can race and still be legal.
Being fastest don't mean a whole lot if you don't actually make it over the finish line.
So whether that's because you reached the physical limits of how hard your car can hit a wall and keep moving, or the conceptual limits of how 'aggressively' you can race and still be legal.
Being fastest don't mean a whole lot if you don't actually make it over the finish line.
Ax^
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tbf the 2 people given the title of the best natural born talents in F1 and lauded by almost every F1 fan
Senna and Schumacher both drive like entitled fucking dicks
so max mentality when the whole worlds be telling that he is their spiritual successor since the age of 17 is not that strange
Senna and Schumacher both drive like entitled fucking dicks
so max mentality when the whole worlds be telling that he is their spiritual successor since the age of 17 is not that strange
Lord Camomile
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For those wondering, Channel 4 coverage starts at 12pm.
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1%er
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STRATEGY GUIDE
A new track layout and diverging tyre choices to start the race on from the title contenders have set the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix up beautifully, so we take a look at the different strategic options that are available to the teams ahead of today’s season finale at the Yas Marina Circuit.What are the likely strategies for the frontrunners?
A bit like the previous race in Jeddah, the target is an obvious one for both Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton. Although they each start on a different compound of tyre (Verstappen on the softs and Hamilton on the mediums) they are both aiming to make a one-stop strategy work with a second stint on hard tyres. For Verstappen, the target is to reach at least Lap 15, and then continue as close to Lap 20 as possible before making his pit stop. If he retains the lead at the start then the timing will be crucial, though, because if he goes too early then Hamilton might have too much pace in hand in clear air and be able to overcut the Red Bull. But Verstappen also has to guard against an undercut that could come as early as Lap 15, given that’s when the one-stop pit window opens. Hamilton could try and use the advantage of fresh hard tyres against Verstappen’s aging softs to get ahead, but if not then he will look to run longer up to Lap 27 and use the tyre offset to attempt to attack later on. If Hamilton manages to get ahead of Verstappen on the opening lap, however, then the equation becomes a lot harder for the Red Bull driver, because his soft tyres are more susceptible to overheating behind another car on high fuel, and staying close enough to threaten with an undercut of his own could be a challenge. If Verstappen wants to try a two-stop strategy, he’s going to need clear air and to get a full pit stop clear of the chasing pack before making a switch to hard tyres. From there, a final stint for mediums is possible as the rest of the field falls even further back from the pace being set at the front, but the first pit stop timing comes with a risk of being released into traffic and losing significant time.How about the rest of the top 10?
The majority of the top 10 went for soft tyres in Q2, partly due to the need to confirm their positions in the top 10 but also because they feel the overall race strategy is not overly hurt by being on that compound. The soft provides an advantage off the line with more grip from the softer compound and can still be part of a one-stopper, but requires a bit more pace management. If an early Safety Car comes into play, a pit stop for hards at that point would then lead to a likely two-stop strategy with a switch to mediums for the final stint. Aiming for a straight two-stopper – starting on softs and switching to hards after 12-18 laps before a final stint on mediums is possible but much more risky given the likelihood of emerging in traffic after the first stop. Valtteri Bottas and Yuki Tsunoda are the only other two drivers starting on the mediums in the top 10, and they’ll be looking to simply run as long as possible, creating a tyre offset to take advantage of in the latter stages of the race.What are the options for the bottom half of the field?
Starting on the mediums is the preferred option given the additional flexibility it provides, but some might opt for the softs to try and take advantage of the extra grip on the opening lap to gain crucial track position. The outlier would be starting on the hard tyre. While the hard here is the C3 compound the middle of the Pirelli range it still struggles with warm-up compared to the other two options, and temperatures could be particularly low after a slow formation lap followed by sitting on the starting grid. So for any driver thinking of going long with an opening stint on hards, they’re likely to be out of position at the back and willing to gamble rather than risking track position higher up in the midfield. That means we’re once again looking at the Aston Martin, Alfa Romeo, Williams and the solitary Haas of Mick Schumacher (with Nikita Mazepin having been ruled out of the race after contracting Covid-19) as the main candidates for such a strategy. Starting on the hard would allow a long first stint that would need to reach Lap 30 before a switch to mediums would be realistic, providing good pace in the second stint. A well-timed Safety Car would also benefit this strategy, but an early one would prove costly unless a driver has two sets of hards available to them and only the Mercedes, Red Bull, Williams and Schumacher have that.
