Euro 2020 Punditry
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discokermit
Well-Known Member
gobshites the lot.
souljacker
innit
Souness is a cunt. He can fuck off.
ITV much better than BBC.
The BBC seem to be unaccountably loyal to some pundits who are incredibly shit, such as Shearer and Richards, and then regularly clear out the others to make way for new blood who are almost always complete rubbish. And why Alex Scott gets so much time is a mystery too - I used to think she bought something new but over the past year or so her contributions have really tailed off - now she's really phoning it in.
On the other side you've got intelligent giants of the game - Vieira, Keane, de Jong, Cole - most of whom we don't get to see pundit-ing during the normal season. I always enjoyed that about the more recent tournaments - insights from genuine legends and experts that you would never normally hear from.
By contrast, the BBC have Fabregas and that's about it as far as I can see.
Hard to avoid the feeling that the BBC coverage is being driven by factors other than love of the game.
The BBC seem to be unaccountably loyal to some pundits who are incredibly shit, such as Shearer and Richards, and then regularly clear out the others to make way for new blood who are almost always complete rubbish. And why Alex Scott gets so much time is a mystery too - I used to think she bought something new but over the past year or so her contributions have really tailed off - now she's really phoning it in.
On the other side you've got intelligent giants of the game - Vieira, Keane, de Jong, Cole - most of whom we don't get to see pundit-ing during the normal season. I always enjoyed that about the more recent tournaments - insights from genuine legends and experts that you would never normally hear from.
By contrast, the BBC have Fabregas and that's about it as far as I can see.
Hard to avoid the feeling that the BBC coverage is being driven by factors other than love of the game.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Don’t have punditry at half time or after the game here. League games have a catch-up show on national TV with pundits . The club channels Porto , Sporting and Benfica have programmes that examine every throw in , tackle and decision on a fucking loop.
The USA channels are quite good , not the usual vested narrative .
The USA channels are quite good , not the usual vested narrative .
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Don't think he's switched, he's just doing both. GL also does BBC and BT.
Wright is the best pundit anywhere, IMO-FWIW.
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
Am surprised their contracts don't stop them working for rivals.
Lineker is different as he does MOTD on saturday and Champions League during the week.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
I thiiiiiiiink Wright maybe does international for ITV (presumably after they got the rights to England's non-tournament games), and club games for BBC?
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
ESPN is fucking awful. Kasey Keller gets on my tits.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
Speaking as someone who only watches football at international tournaments.
It seems compulsory for Scottish and Welsh pundits to be 100% partisan for their National team and the English ones (except Wrighty of course) tend to be more neutral when the 3 Lions are playing. Maybe higher expectations?
Non-Anglophone pundits invariably provide better analysis than our home-grown lot even though they’re talking in what is minimum their second language, also I find the female pundits outperform the male ones.
The BBC production has a lofty baked in arrogance that they’re the nations favourite which is embodied by Lineker. ITV coverage superior - as it often is in a direct comparison. Maybe advert breaks mean they have less scope for waffle.
It seems compulsory for Scottish and Welsh pundits to be 100% partisan for their National team and the English ones (except Wrighty of course) tend to be more neutral when the 3 Lions are playing. Maybe higher expectations?
Non-Anglophone pundits invariably provide better analysis than our home-grown lot even though they’re talking in what is minimum their second language, also I find the female pundits outperform the male ones.
The BBC production has a lofty baked in arrogance that they’re the nations favourite which is embodied by Lineker. ITV coverage superior - as it often is in a direct comparison. Maybe advert breaks mean they have less scope for waffle.
"Finland's Manager used to be a maths teacher, and he's got the numbers in the final third".
Martin Keown.
Kill me now.
I love Keown. I remain a little amazed, all this years later, that such a troglodytic player turned out to be so intelligent and erudite. He goes off the deep end from time to time and has a whispered intensity that Barney Ronay at the Guardian is very good on (talking as if a dog has just died) but he's essentially a cut above most of them.
Helps that he's a Gooner, obviously.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
He was an intelligent and indeed erudite player as he is an erudite and intelligent commentator.
technical
stripey
Does anyone know if the commentators and co-commentators at each match are actually in the stadium? It sounds like it (cf early days of football italia when Peter Brackley was clearly in a studio somewhere in London) but on the other hand it seems unlikely given covid and how far they'd have to travel between some cities.
I think they were in Copenhagen yesterday but not sure.
Who doesn't pundit but should do?
I'm sure Duncan Ferguson would have some views...
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
I'd actually assumed they were still in the UK, just because of the logistics involved and potential quarantine issues. But maybe they've just been assigned specific venues/countries and stick within that?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Other examples are available
Numbers
an ting!
How smooth/slick did Andros Townsend look.Ashley Cole always looks like he's been bang on it and come along on the roll overhe was better pitch side than in the studio.
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