beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Not funny either, that's Tom Pidcock's bike, crashed whilst training. He had to have surgery for a broken collarbone.
Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.
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Plastic Paddy
Speeding on public roads.
platinumsage
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It's fine to speed and race on public roads if you don't have an engine, and if any crash happens it won't be your fault.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
He wasn't racing and you can't speed on a bicycle, next
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Oh, and surprise surprise, the crash was due to him being hit by a fucking driver.
www.cyclingweekly.com
Tom Pidcock was hit by driver while training, coach confirms
The Brit suffered a broken collarbone in the collision
www.cyclingweekly.com
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He wasn't racing and you can't speed on a bicycle, next
I was making a general point. You can of course you can speed where "speed" means traveling at a speed which is too fast for the conditions such that you're much more likely to have an accident, and which in the UK might garner you a charge of riding furiously.
He was training for a race by traveling at "a fairly high speed at the start of a descent" so I wouldn't be surprised if he rounded a bend too quickly to be able to stop in the distance he could see to be clear, and that the driver pulling out had zero chance of reacting in time.
maomao
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Well I wouldn't be surprised if he was mown down by a lazy twat who was texting and driving while on his way to MacDonalds.
Either way cycling is big business in the Pyrenees, especially Andorra that relies on the Tour and the Vuelta for tourism and is a base for a lot of professional cyclists. It seems unlikely that he was doing anything illegal.
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I didn't suggest he was.
It does however seem obvious he was doing something risky, and got into a situation that someone cycling at a reasonable speed to the village shop to buy some furniture might not have found themselves.
maomao
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I agree. It is inherently risky allowing amateur car drivers onto roads where professional cyclists train to do their job. The solution seems obvious to me. Get rid of the cars.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
The driver pulled out on him. It is their fault.
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Plastic Paddy
Yep. Speeding.Oh, and surprise surprise, the crash was due to him being hit by a fucking driver.
Tom Pidcock was hit by driver while training, coach confirms
The Brit suffered a broken collarbone in the collision
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Speeding and ran into the side of a car. I hope he's prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
It's madness that they're allowed to race on an open public road.
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It has gone to court already has it?
maomao
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He was hit by the car. And he may have been 'speeding' as in going fast but he wasbn't breaking the speed limit unless you know something that isn't in any of the published articles. And if you want the relevant laws they're in Catalan so have fun with that.
Here's a story that not only illustrates just how fucking nasty some car drivers are but how the constant drip drip of anti-cyclist 'banter' encourages violence:
Former police officer says driver threatened ‘to knock him off and kill him’ before crashing into him and fleeing the scene
The cyclist, a former senior investigative officer in fatal traffic collisions, started to investigate the driver himself
www.cyclingweekly.com
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This wasn’t a dedicated cycling day when the roads are closed to cars, and I doubt you’ll get many residents of the area onboard with a permanent closure of the roads to cars, especially if it’s for people from out of the area to bomb about like lunatics.
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Plastic Paddy
They should consider charging the lunatic cyclist with attempted murder.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
NonsenseHe was hit by the car. And he may have been 'speeding' as in going fast but he wasbn't breaking the speed limit unless you know something that isn't in any of the published articles. And if you want the relevant laws they're in Catalan so have fun with that.
Here's a story that not only illustrates just how fucking nasty some car drivers are but how the constant drip drip of anti-cyclist 'banter' encourages violence:
Former police officer says driver threatened ‘to knock him off and kill him’ before crashing into him and fleeing the scene
The cyclist, a former senior investigative officer in fatal traffic collisions, started to investigate the driver himself
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
If you pull out into the path of an oncoming vehicle it’s your fault. Do we really need to argue this?
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We don’t know they pulled out into the path of the cyclist, it could have been a downhill road crossing a more major road and the cyclist should have given way. It could have been a been a bend that the cyclist came around so fast that there wouldn’t have been time for an attentive driver to see them in time. There are lots of things we don’t know.
We do know that the cyclist was on a public road travelling fast downhill training for a race.
teuchter
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Here's a story that not only illustrates just how fucking nasty some car drivers are but how the constant drip drip of anti-cyclist 'banter' encourages violence:
Former police officer says driver threatened ‘to knock him off and kill him’ before crashing into him and fleeing the scene
The cyclist, a former senior investigative officer in fatal traffic collisions, started to investigate the driver himself
Most people who've done a bit of cycling will have had something like this happen to them, even if they've never actually been hit. And/or they've watched it happen to someone close to them. No airbag between you and the driver who decides to pass you 10cm away at 60mph to teach you a lesson for being on the public road.
That's why, when I first saw the video of that cyclist nearly being run over by the road rage driver, I had a physical reaction to it and I doubt I was the only one reading this thread who could say that.
Just have to develop a thick skin in order to deal with those who want to make it a banter-suitable subject, and pity them for their ignorance. They've probably never deliberately tried to intimidate a cyclist but they've also probably never actually known what it feels like to literally have your life intentionally threatened by another vehicle.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
What if you do it delineraty, to prevent a speeding cyclist from killing somebody?
maomao
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There are scores of articles detailing motorists assaults on cyclists online. And anyone whose cycled in the UK will tell you how hateful and inconsiderate a large proportion of car drivers can be. Meanwhile anti-cyclist banter is a thing (your posts are evidence enough of that) and encourages othering and violence against cyclists. What part of my post is nonsense?
You never even managed to get one photo of a cyclist without lights at night on a London road by the way. After promising me three. I reckon that proves you haven't even seen one in the last eight months.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
What encourages othering and violence against cyclists is the fact that the vast majority of them (in London at least) ride like twats. Even pedestrians hate them. Have you not noticed that cyclists aren't despised in Holland? It's because they don't ride like bellends there.
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I spent many years cycling on country roads etc before I could drive, and then many years both driving and cycling. I’ve encountered idiots, angry people and scary situations on both forms of transport.
However I seem to be able to cycle and drive without getting enraged or advocating for cars to abolished.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
OK, so let’s have all our cities made to be like Dutch ones
maomao
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Given you can't even spell it I'm not ready to take you as an authority on London cycling. You know fuck all except what you've read on here and seen on YouTube.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Can't spell what?
Are you saying that all of those YouTube videos, where 90+% of cyclists are riding like bellends, are fake?
