Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.

[platinumsage]

Also, we shouldn't try to stop people bludgeoning kittens to death in London, because it'll just encourage them to go and bludgeon kittens to death outside the M25 instead.

You could achieve an end to the bludgeoning of cats by banning ownership of them with immediate effect and confiscating them all to be euthanised. Although I doubt you’d manage it in a pet-loving democracy such as the UK.

 

[teuchter]

You could achieve an end to the bludgeoning of cats by banning ownership of them with immediate effect and confiscating them all to be euthanised. Although I doubt you’d manage it in a pet-loving democracy such as the UK.

It's interesting that in your version of the analogy it's the poor, fluffy, motor cars that are getting bludgeoned to death, rather than the public good, the environment, equality of access and social cohesion.

 

[platinumsage]

It's interesting that in your version of the analogy it's the poor, fluffy, motor cars that are getting bludgeoned to death, rather than the public good, the environment, equality of access and social cohesion.

This is the sort of view espoused by selfish cat-haters who moan about other people’s cats shitting in their garden. Cats provide a great benefit to many people despite their negative externalities.

If you don't feel you'll ever be able to live in a society containing cats you could always move to North Korea, where Kim Jong-un last year ordered all cats to be eliminated.

 

[edcraw]

This is the sort of view espoused by selfish cat-haters who moan about other people’s cats shitting in their garden. Cats provide a great benefit to many people despite their negative externalities.

If you don't feel you'll ever be able to live in a society containing cats you could always move to North Korea, where Kim Jong-un last year ordered all cats to be eliminated.

Congrats platinumsage !!!! Great reference to North Korea!!!!

Council accused of acting like North Korea with threats against low traffic zone protester

Local authority in Lambeth demands that campaigner remove placard calling for end to road closures or face fines and legal action

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[teuchter]

you could always move to North Korea,

Can you explain the process to do this, please?

 

[platinumsage]

Can you explain the process to do this, please?

I think if you drive there in a big SUV suitable for Russian rural roads you can sneak across the border, and then claim asylum by stating you risked persecution for your anti-car and anti-cat beliefs. Since private car and cat ownership is banned there, you should be welcomed with open arms.

 

[teuchter]

 

[platinumsage]

They probably need to look at the environmental cost of recycling a tyre and the irreparable damage caused by making one flat.

 

[teuchter]

They probably need to look at the environmental cost of recycling a tyre and the irreparable damage caused by making one flat.

FYI you just pump some air back into it.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

FYI you just pump some air back into it.

Fill tyres with CO2, so if any enviroprick deflates it they release that stored CO2 in to the atmosphere.

 

[T & P]

Seeing as the perpetrators of this particular act are quoting in their stickers CO2 emissions as the reason for targeting ‘SUVs’, I hope they had the foresight to target only those vehicles that do genuinely produce high emission figures- rather than picking up any car they deem as an SUV based on size, without having any knowledge of how polluting or otherwise they might be.

Imagine how much of a cunt they would make themselves look if they sabotaged a highly efficient hybrid SUV that actually emits far lower amounts of CO2 than dozens of older small hatchback models parked in the vicinity.

 

[teuchter]

Who'd have thought urban75 would be full of apologists lining up to defend SUV owners in the poshest part of south london?

Me of course. It's exactly what i predicted.

 

[teuchter]

Seeing as the perpetrators of this particular act are quoting in their stickers CO2 emissions as the reason for targeting ‘SUVs’, I hope they had the foresight to target only those vehicles that do genuinely produce high emission figures- rather than picking up any car they deem as an SUV based on size, without having any knowledge of how polluting or otherwise they might be.

Imagine how much of a cunt they would make themselves look if they sabotaged a highly efficient hybrid SUV that actually emits far lower amounts of CO2 than dozens of older small hatchback models parked in the vicinity.

The overuse of the term "whataboutery" is something I'm starting to find a little tedious. But congratulations on typing out these two overly wordy and entertainingly indignant paragraphs as an absolute textbook example of it.

 

[T & P]

The overuse of the term "whataboutery" is something I'm starting to find a little tedious. But congratulations on typing out these two overly wordy and entertainingly indignant paragraphs as an absolute textbook example of it.

There’s absolutely no whataboutery whatsoever in this. The very people who committed this action, which you saw fit to report in this thread, are openly admitting they’re targeting ’SUVs’ because of their assumed unacceptably high CO2 emissions.

As demonstrated in numerous threads or posts in here as well as the politics forums (and indeed the manufacturers’ own classifications), the term SUV has come to encompass a markedly wide range of vehicles. A Toyota Yaris Cross is not only massively more efficient, smaller, and less polluting than a Range Rover, it is also significantly less polluting than millions of older Fiestas, Polos, Micras, and similar small cars still roaming the streets without as much as a second look from those prepared to deflate car tyres of vehicles they believe to be intolerably inefficient based solely on their classification.

Of course, it is possible those who carried out this act had the presence of mind to recognise this. Perhaps we need a new car classification in this country, so there’s no doubt about which vehicles are the proper oversize SUV type most people object to, and those which are simply slightly larger compact designs that have been become to be known SUVs but are nothing of the kind.

 

[edcraw]

Who'd have thought urban75 would be full of apologists lining up to defend SUV owners in the poshest part of south london?

Me of course. It's exactly what i predicted.

It’s weird - how did these suburbanite Tories even find urban75 let alone stick around?

 

[platinumsage]

It’s weird - how did these suburbanite Tories even find urban75 let alone stick around?

It‘s funny when LibDems are so far removed from ordinary working people that they think anyone who doesn’t subscribe to their sandal-fascism must be a Tory.

 

[a_chap]

This will upset the petrol-heads on here. On my Twitter feed just now:

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

It’s weird - how did these suburbanite Tories even find urban75 let alone stick around?

Yes it is weird, especially as for years people have been telling him to fuck off an’all, but teuchter’s teuchter and I guess people either just ignore or laugh at him these days.

 

[liquidindian]

SUVs have more comfortable seats, necessary if you've been spending all day bending over backwards to justify their existence.

 

[a_chap]

Bending over forwards, surely...

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Just fly to the shops or on the school run and save teh planet

 

[platinumsage]

I saw one this morning too - on a disabled neighbour's Toyota hybrid

"You will have no difficulty getting around without your gas guzzler, with walking, cycling or public transport"

Selfish cretins, I'd love to do a climate audit of their own pathetic middle-class lives. I bet they don't even have 270mm of loft insulation.

 

[edcraw]

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Just fly to the shops or on the school run and save teh planet

Good to see the movement’s spreading!!

 

[edcraw]

It’s weird how every SUV seems to be a hybrid with a disabled owner

 

[platinumsage]

It’s weird how every SUV seems to be a hybrid with a disabled owner

It doesn't matter what proportion are, because whoever did this obviously doesn't care.

Anyway it's clearly Extinction Rebellion, you can tell from their website.

 

[edcraw]

Article here explaining it if anyone actually cares otherwise “bUt WhAt AbOuT cHiNa!!!11!!!”

SUVs Are Worse for the Climate Than You Ever Imagined

But if you drive one, you can still reduce your carbon footprint—and you can vote for climate change policies with even bigger impact.

www.wired.com

ps. were absolutely fucked - hopefully Farage’s referendum will sort it out though!

 

[platinumsage]

Article here explaining it if anyone actually cares otherwise “bUt WhAt AbOuT cHiNa!!!11!!!”

SUVs Are Worse for the Climate Than You Ever Imagined

But if you drive one, you can still reduce your carbon footprint—and you can vote for climate change policies with even bigger impact.

www.wired.com

ps. were absolutely fucked - hopefully Farage’s referendum will sort it out though!

There was a whole thread about SUVs vs vehicles that are actually "bad for the climate". Maybe go check it out, it was only around 50 pages.

 

[liquidindian]

on a disabled neighbour's Toyota hybrid

They did it to my uncle who works at Nintendo too.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

It’s weird how every SUV seems to be a hybrid with a disabled owner

They are not, but the majority who are not have created a market for the things to exist in the first place, benefitting the disabled community and should be applauded for their selfless behaviour.

 

[teuchter]

It doesn't matter what proportion are, because whoever did this obviously doesn't care.

And you obviously don't care about the disabled children that these cars might have run over, if their tyres hadn't been deflated. Disgusting attitude.