Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.
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beesonthewhatnow
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Hahahaha. Serves them right.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
liquidindian
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beesonthewhatnow
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Vive La France!
liquidindian
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You'd think Katie Price being guilty of drink/drug driving and barely escaping the jail would mean she was the runaway winner of Worst Jordan In A Car 2021 but no.
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Wow they really think the past was a nice place don’t they? Calm citizens wafting gently across tree-lined boulevards.
I assure you any pedestrian would feel safer negotiating today’s Fleet Street than the version prior to pedestrian crossings where it was filled with a vast throng of jostling horse-drawn contraptions.
Wow - how old are you?!
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
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Why do people keep posting that Daily Mail graphic all over the internet. 
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To be honest, I am not surprised that anti-car propagandists haven’t managed anything better than reposting a Daily Mail diagram all over social media. The forthcoming changes to the Highway Code certainly aren’t the once-in-a-generation paradigm shift that some lunatic cyclists make them out to be - they are merely a confusing and sorry mess that is symptomatic of the declining quality of our civil servants.
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LOL! In London at least, pedestrians have always behaved in the manner those Highway Code rule changes will now allow them to do legally. So most drivers will not even notice, let alone be outraged by these new rules, seeing that it will not force them to drive any differently than they have been doing.
beesonthewhatnow
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Which bit is “confusing” then? It’s all perfectly clear.
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What about the hierarchy of road users,
"Rule H1 of The Highway Code establishes a hierarchy of road users which ensures that
those road users who can do the greatest harm have the greatest responsibility to reduce
the danger or threat they may pose to other road users.
The hierarchy places vulnerable road users before motorised vehicles so the top of the
hierarchy would therefore be:
1. pedestrians, in particular children, older adults and disabled people
2. cyclists
3. horse riders
4. motorcyclists"
Ok, so pedestrians come first, right?
But now the Highway Code will be changed to mean children, older adults and disabled people must take care not to obstruct cyclists on shared pavements!
"Some routes shared with cyclists will not be separated by such a feature
allowing cyclists and pedestrians to share the same space. Cyclists should
respect your safety (see Rule 62) but you should also take care not to obstruct
or endanger them. Always remain aware of your environment and avoid
unnecessary distractions.
Where signs indicate, some routes are shared between pedestrians, cyclists,
horse riders and horse drawn vehicles. Cyclists, horse riders and drivers of
horse drawn vehicles should respect your safety, but you should take care not
to obstruct or endanger them. Always remain aware of your environment and
avoid unnecessary distractions."
"Rule H1 of The Highway Code establishes a hierarchy of road users which ensures that
those road users who can do the greatest harm have the greatest responsibility to reduce
the danger or threat they may pose to other road users.
The hierarchy places vulnerable road users before motorised vehicles so the top of the
hierarchy would therefore be:
1. pedestrians, in particular children, older adults and disabled people
2. cyclists
3. horse riders
4. motorcyclists"
Ok, so pedestrians come first, right?
But now the Highway Code will be changed to mean children, older adults and disabled people must take care not to obstruct cyclists on shared pavements!
"Some routes shared with cyclists will not be separated by such a feature
allowing cyclists and pedestrians to share the same space. Cyclists should
respect your safety (see Rule 62) but you should also take care not to obstruct
or endanger them. Always remain aware of your environment and avoid
unnecessary distractions.
Where signs indicate, some routes are shared between pedestrians, cyclists,
horse riders and horse drawn vehicles. Cyclists, horse riders and drivers of
horse drawn vehicles should respect your safety, but you should take care not
to obstruct or endanger them. Always remain aware of your environment and
avoid unnecessary distractions."
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Aside from new the rules of drivers, many of which are often not even grammatically correct, one fundamental problem is that it adds vast amounts of text to something that people don't read anyway. No attempt to simplify or condense it to the most important points, instead we get new pointless twaddle like this:
Where a roundabout has separate cycle facilities, you should use these
facilities where they make your journey safer and easier although you are not
obliged to use them. This will depend on your experience and skills and the
situation at the time.
Where a roundabout has separate cycle facilities, you should use these
facilities where they make your journey safer and easier although you are not
obliged to use them. This will depend on your experience and skills and the
situation at the time.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
This bit:
Is explicitly encouraging cyclists to go where they should never go.
Is explicitly encouraging cyclists to go where they should never go.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
No it’s not, it’s telling drivers they shouldn’t do something dangerous to cyclists.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
If that confuses you I’m not sure how you manage to walk and breathe at the same time.
The Daily Mail's picture might do but the actual rule doesn't.
If anyone has an issue with any of that then they really shouldn't be driving.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Be my guest to go up the inside of an HGV at a junction, I have a spare bike that I can spray white in your memory.
It doesn't say that - it says the HGV should not cut across a cyclist when turning.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It shows quite clearly a bicycle going up the inside of a vehicle at a junction. The new rules may state that the HGV shouldn't squish you in the situation, I shall continue to teach my kids to keep the fuck away from there.
