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Entirely unashamed anti car propaganda, and the more the better.

This really belongs in the Driving Standards thread, but anyway, what a twat. Texting at the wheel or similar fuckwittery almost certainly.

And driving what looks like a mini bus as well. I hope there were no passengers on board.
 
This really belongs in the Driving Standards thread, but anyway, what a twat. Texting at the wheel or similar fuckwittery almost certainly.

And driving what looks like a mini bus as well. I hope there were no passengers on board.
It belongs here because it shows - again - that “cyclists should wear hiviz” etc is pointless. It makes fuck all difference.
 
It belongs here because it shows - again - that “cyclists should wear hiviz” etc is pointless. It makes fuck all difference.
If they were texting or bookfacing, they deserve a lifetime ban.
There are cunts in all walks of life, and cunts using phones or updating their bookface status whilst driving are some of the worst cunts on the planet, and deserve appropriate punishment. But this isn't about cars, it's about cunts.
 
It belongs here because it shows - again - that “cyclists should wear hiviz” etc is pointless. It makes fuck all difference.
That’s a different discussion altogether though- well worth having, but nothing to do with the supposed existential evils of the motorcar.

Individual cases of reckless or criminal driving behaviour out of a pool of tens of millions are as statistically relevant as individual cases of someone getting drunk in a pub and glassing someone suggesting that pub goers in this country are on the whole unstable dangerous thugs.
 
That’s a different discussion altogether though- well worth having, but nothing to do with the supposed existential evils of the motorcar.

It's not worth having, to be fair. It's been done loads of times on here.

The only conclusion that's ever drawn from it is that cyclists are thicker than porridge.
 
From the individual freedom point of view, some might argue that if a cyclist or motorcyclist doesn’t want to wear a helmet, ultimately they’re not risking other people’s lives- there’s a separate argument about unnecessary extra cost to our health service, but let’s park that for the time being.

But being inadequately equipped to be sufficiently seen at night will definitely affect other users if they end up crashing into a cyclist in ninja mode. Even if they get cleared of any wrongdoing, most people don’t enjoy being involved in a fatal collision, anymore than a train driver enjoys seeing a drunken person fall onto the rails right in front of them.

I don’t necessarily think hi vizs are a must in daytime. A few individual collisions every year out of hundreds of millions of combined journeys are simply inevitable. But just because no amount of safety precautions will ever reduce accidents to zero does not mean a reasonable degree of them will not prevent hundreds or thousands every year.
 
Individual cases of reckless or criminal driving behaviour out of a pool of tens of millions are as statistically relevant as individual cases of someone getting drunk in a pub and glassing someone suggesting that pub goers in this country are on the whole unstable dangerous thugs.
393 million guns in the US, 15,000 gun murders per year. 32 million cars in the UK, 1,500 road deaths per year.

It means that the a car in the hands of a regular dozy UK driver is as dangerous as a gun in the hands of a crazed american murderer.

Guns and cars aren't the problem - people are. According to you lot. Let's ban car drivers instead of cars. Then put them in prison anyway just to be safe.
 
393 million guns in the US, 15,000 gun murders per year. 32 million cars in the UK, 1,500 road deaths per year.

It means that the a car in the hands of a regular dozy UK driver is as dangerous as a gun in the hands of a crazed american murderer.

Guns and cars aren't the problem - people are. According to you lot. Let's ban car drivers instead of cars. Then put them in prison anyway just to be safe.
1.2 million accidents and 70 dead each year in the UK from electrical accidents.
DOWN WITH ELECTRICITY!
 
Troll thread or not, and hatred of cars or not, please don’t tell me you are for a moment proposing that as a valid argument against them. Are you? :D
 
With all cyclists in prison it would be ~zero, but where's the fun in that.
With all pubs closed and all alcohol banned forever, thousands of people a year would be saved from booze-fuelled violent assaults and other crimes. What kind of selfish twat could object to that? Nobody needs to drink, far less so than drive in fact.
 
That e-scooters should be made legal - they are a good thing and by criminalising them you’re giving the police another opportunity to target young black men.

So they should be made legal for that reason alone, with no regard for any of the other issues around their use?
 
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