Another edcraw genius attempt at a gotcha.That e-scooters should be made legal - they are a good thing and by criminalising them you’re giving the police another opportunity to target young black men.
What issues?
All of which can be dealt with through regulation & doesn't mean they should remain illegal.Issues of safety, registration, training, road-worthiness, regulation, etc.
Just little things like that.
I used to like the Beano when I was a child but I was never bowled over by it.All of which can be dealt with through regulation & doesn't mean they should remain illegal.
Seriously, give the podcast a go. It talks about evidence for harm of e-scooters and likens the outsized response to them to the moral panics around new technologies (juke boxes, comics, video games) of the past.
Seriously, give the podcast a go.
Where's the podcast link?
I used to like the Beano when I was a child but I was never bowled over by it.
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72. You’re Wrong About Bikes with Michael Hobbes
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TLDL: e-scooters aren't very dangerousA forty-two minute podcast entitled "The War On Cars" by a New York journalist. Think I might swerve that for now!
Can you give us a precis; specifically with reference to the legal issues surrounding the use of e-scooters in the UK?
E-scooters are dangerous. Many people have been seriously injured and killed by them.TLDL: e-scooters aren't very dangerous
ps. the podcast title is tongue in check - there is no 'war on cars'.
Do you have any evidence?E-scooters are dangerous. Many people have been seriously injured and killed by them.
Yes. I used Google and found lots of evidence.Do you have any evidence?
TLDL: e-scooters aren't very dangerous
Great discussion!Yes. I used Google and found lots of evidence.
Great discussion!
The Department for Transport’s (DfT) figures show that there were 484 casualties involving e-scooters in 2020, of which one person was killed, 128 were seriously injured and 355 slightly injured.
Indeed - the first link shows they're not very dangerous, especially to people not using them.E-scooter accidents uk - Google Search
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No, it doesn't.Indeed - the first link shows they're not very dangerous, especially to people not using them.
Great discussion!
You're either thick or dishonest. Which is it?Great discussion!
Great discussion!
Almost 300 Londoners were injured in e-scooter crashes last year, it has been revealed.
The Government figures - which are likely to be a underestimate - showed there were 483 people hurt and one killed across Britain in 2020.
This includes 291 injuries reported to the Metropolitan police - equating to 60 per cent of the national total - and five to the City of London police.
Separate data from Transport for London shows there have been three e-scooter deaths in the capital this year. The victims have been named as Michael Harris, Anthony Mumford and Junior Shay Alexander.
They're the same figures I posted and show they aren't very dangerous.Hundreds of Londoners injured in e-scooter crashes, figures reveal
Almost 300 Londoners were injured in e-scooter crashes last year, it has been revealed.www.standard.co.uk
edcraw, do these figures not suggest that e-scooters are dangerous?
E-scooters are dangerous. Many people have been seriously injured and killed by them.
Taps fingers whilst waiting for whataboutery reply.
They're the same figures I posted and show they aren't very dangerous.
Do these figures suggest cars are dangerous?
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You're saying 1 death and 128 injured is an unacceptable danger therefore cars are also an unacceptable danger. You've set the definition.
He's in favour of murdering people with guns, electricity, kitchen knives or cars. But not scooters.You're saying 1 death and 128 injured is an unacceptable danger therefore cars are also an unacceptable danger. You've set the definition.
Can you not read? Three deaths this year in London alone, and 300 injuries and one death in London last year.You're saying 1 death and 128 injured is an unacceptable danger therefore cars are also an unacceptable danger. You've set the definition.
Yes, so legalise them with regulation.Can you not read? Three deaths this year in London alone, and 300 injuries and one death in London last year.
And car drivers are already subject to laws and regulations